¤¤Ziggylata¤¤ Jul 1 @ 1:45pm
Versus and Realism Versus is a ♥♥♥♥fest
Someone had the AUDACITY to ask me if they were playing versus on the finale, and theyve been there from the start.

The games are filled with people who are so good they barely need to try and people who dont know how to pounce as a hunter.

God help us all, im done with Versus forever because for the last 3 days I havent been able to find a decently matched versus game.
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GreenHeart Lvl 4.0 Jul 1 @ 4:01pm 
With 125 hr, I doubt it
dustinandband Jul 1 @ 4:58pm 
lol this always happens when L4D2 is 75% off. Give it two weeks.
Give it some time for the sale kid ranks to thin out.
Then continue on with your 125 hours.
¤¤Ziggylata¤¤ Jul 2 @ 12:25am 
U guise r so meen to me cus my hours ;~;
Rusty Jul 2 @ 12:58am 
Originally posted by ¤♫Ziggylata♫¤:
U guise r so meen to me cus my hours ;~;

Just leave the game idling whenever you're not playing. Your hours will skyrocket. That, or make your profile private. I chose the latter.
¤¤Ziggylata¤¤ Jul 2 @ 1:29am 
Thanks shackleford.
(ΘČĐ)™Conrad925 Jul 2 @ 2:05am 
Why even play that mode? Why does everyone insist on playing uber-elite ultra-pro versus realism without first mastering all the other modes in the game? Why throw yourself into the lion's den covered in impala blood, then come in here complaining about getting eviscerated and kicked by mean guys? With only 125 hrs you can't possibly have played out all the content that's available for even one mode of L4D2. I am still learning things and honing skills every time I play, but I stick to campaign and survival mostly. Pretty easy to find a good team to play with and I don't mind sharing my knowledge with new players or observing experienced players to see what I can learn from them. Campaign is definately the classroom of L4D2, for both learning and teaching as well as the place for casual fun. Versus is a highly competitive team based game where each player is expected to pull his own weight and not drag their team down. Players need to honestly evaluate their own skill level and not join games that are more than one tier above that level because there is no in-game matchmaking. Why torture yourself and others by throwing your rookie butt into the pro arena solely because you can?
daniu -TLG- Jul 2 @ 2:18am 
Originally posted by (ΘČĐ)™Conrad925:
With only 125 hrs you can't possibly have played out all the content that's available for even one mode of L4D2.
Wut? At 100 hours, you're able to have beaten all of the campaigns several times over, to the point of it becoming boring.

Versus is a highly competitive team based game where each player is expected to pull his own weight and not drag their team down. Players need to honestly evaluate their own skill level and not join games that are more than one tier above that level because there is no in-game matchmaking. Why torture yourself and others by throwing your rookie butt into the pro arena solely because you can?
How does one choose the tier they are going to play at when entering a vs game?
And how, in your mind, is anyone ever going to start Versus? There are quite a bit of different and additional tactics compared to Campaign, and not knowing them will always "drag the team down". But since you're supposed to keep playing your level, you're not going to ever learn them either to avoid annyoing the "pros".
(ΘČĐ)™Conrad925 Jul 2 @ 3:29am 
Originally posted by daniu -TLG-:
Originally posted by (ΘČĐ)™Conrad925:
With only 125 hrs you can't possibly have played out all the content that's available for even one mode of L4D2.
Wut? At 100 hours, you're able to have beaten all of the campaigns several times over, to the point of it becoming boring.
On expert? realism? How about all the add-on campaigns in the workshop?

How does one choose the tier they are going to play at when entering a vs game?
And how, in your mind, is anyone ever going to start Versus? There are quite a bit of different and additional tactics compared to Campaign, and not knowing them will always "drag the team down". But since you're supposed to keep playing your level, you're not going to ever learn them either to avoid annyoing the "pros".
The OP stated his issues were in regards to versus realism, which is definately not the place to learn or begin your career n versus. I guess in the perfect L4D2 world one could learn the basic controls, mechanics and capabilities/vulnerabilities of being SI in scavenge, or in a single player versus mod since finding nearly fleshed out scavenge games is a rarity. I also realize you gotta learn by doing, but you don't have to do that on realism, followed by whining on the forums about how you were treated.
¤¤Ziggylata¤¤ Jul 2 @ 10:45am 
Originally posted by (ΘČĐ)™Conrad925:
Why even play that mode? Why does everyone insist on playing uber-elite ultra-pro versus realism without first mastering all the other modes in the game? Why throw yourself into the lion's den covered in impala blood, then come in here complaining about getting eviscerated and kicked by mean guys? With only 125 hrs you can't possibly have played out all the content that's available for even one mode of L4D2. I am still learning things and honing skills every time I play, but I stick to campaign and survival mostly. Pretty easy to find a good team to play with and I don't mind sharing my knowledge with new players or observing experienced players to see what I can learn from them. Campaign is definately the classroom of L4D2, for both learning and teaching as well as the place for casual fun. Versus is a highly competitive team based game where each player is expected to pull his own weight and not drag their team down. Players need to honestly evaluate their own skill level and not join games that are more than one tier above that level because there is no in-game matchmaking. Why torture yourself and others by throwing your rookie butt into the pro arena solely because you can?

Why not ask the people who dont even know how to pounce or know what gamemode theyre in?
I played alot of Left 4 Dead 1 Versus (even though I have less hours on that then I do on L4D2 (shoot me for my hours im committing sin)) so I know how things go, but in realism versus its just like regular versus except even more tense because of the no glows and the less damage to non-headshots and the other modifcations. Infact the no-glows is my favorite part because someone can easily get seperated from the entire group and just end up dying.
Unfortinately when someone is on a good team, they wont leave the game because theyre doing good, but when someone whos not that bad has terrible teammates, he will leave the game, opening a slot for other people to join the bad team and get completly destroyed 2500 to 600.

Also its funny to see how much hours matter to you people.
"Oh your so new look at your hours go play campaign a bunch more times and leave versus to the big pros."
Might as well just leave my game on overnight to rack up the hours so I dont offend anyone.
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[linux] sophia hapgood Jul 2 @ 11:07am 
There's this guy out there who likes to go into expert realism games and ask if it's versus/dead center/where are the respawns/etc, people who haven't heard the same ♥♥♥♥ for the millionth time or who don't bother checking his profile to see all 5000 of his hours often get pretty buttmad about it. $10 says you got trolled op, it's seriously questionable if someone can play infected serveral times and not realize they're palying infected.

And usually game skill and hours are directly related to each other, unless you're a convert from a cracked version or someone's alt account low hours almost always means low skill. It's not about offending anyone, it's just that you might be better off in campaign or even just regular versus at this point, only so you cna get a little more experience.
¤¤Ziggylata¤¤ Jul 2 @ 11:57am 
Originally posted by magnums are for noobs:
There's this guy out there who likes to go into expert realism games and ask if it's versus/dead center/where are the respawns/etc, people who haven't heard the same ♥♥♥♥ for the millionth time or who don't bother checking his profile to see all 5000 of his hours often get pretty buttmad about it. $10 says you got trolled op, it's seriously questionable if someone can play infected serveral times and not realize they're palying infected.

And usually game skill and hours are directly related to each other, unless you're a convert from a cracked version or someone's alt account low hours almost always means low skill. It's not about offending anyone, it's just that you might be better off in campaign or even just regular versus at this point, only so you cna get a little more experience.

He had like 2 hours of total playtime.
Blasted Dragon Jul 2 @ 12:05pm 
I dont think poeple should always judge by your hours played in your profile.. Ive been playing L4D and L4D2 since releases on the 360. but that wont show on my profile. Some people are just too eager to be judgemental..
GreenHeart Lvl 4.0 Jul 2 @ 8:41pm 
Originally posted by Blasted Dragon:
I dont think poeple should always judge by your hours played in your profile.. Ive been playing L4D and L4D2 since releases on the 360. but that wont show on my profile. Some people are just too eager to be judgemental..

Then you should seriously think about returning to the 360, because in Steam, the hours on record are judged.
Salt Jul 2 @ 9:43pm 
this reminds me of a modest 700 hour player apologizing to us for being a burden during a dead air match last week — while it was true, none of us even came close to calling a kick vote.

but if i have to generalize / judge (the less desirable types) according to hours:
< 100 : beginners, generally tolerable in expert campaigns because they mostly follow advice and listen though all kinds of weird things can still happen in game — taking funny detours, losing their way around maps, tossing bile jars like confetti, activating things prematurely, startling witches etc. most tend to rage quit automatically the moment they incapacitate themselves every 5 feet. the ones that do stay tend to die during finales.

< 1000: experienced yet generally intolerable whether in versus or expert. these are the ones who either play TOO OFFENSIVELY by rushing ahead like rambos before dying alone and cussing at everyone OR play TOO DEFENSIVELY by hiding in a remote corner while team mates sustain huge damage clearing hordes of commons/SIs in another place, refusing to share health, stealing med kits, falling for baits by spawning the very moment survivors open safe-doors, failing crowns, glitching tanks, exploiting whatever they can possibly glitch, spamming voice commands etc.

i manage my own sanity by never expecting players below 1000 hours to react, or even notice at all if i'm pinned or attacked. if i'm dead because no one covered my ♥♥♥, so be it.

> 2000: strong opponents in versus

> 4000: i'll cry and wish i were dead if any one of them spawn as a tank
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