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Subie Nur24h Jul 2, 2014 @ 11:44pm
Tier 2 Shotguns - Overpowered?
I have been reading forum threads about weapons, and I noticed many players mentioning that the Tier 2 Semi-Automatic shotguns are overpowered. Can anyone provide a reason why? I don't know. Here are the damage per shot(s) (DPS) for both T1 and T2 shotguns:

Chrome Shotgun = 248 DPS
Pump Shotgun = 250 DPS
Tactical Shotgun = 253 DPS
Combat Shotgun = 252 DPS
Last edited by Subie Nur24h; Jul 3, 2014 @ 12:25am
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Fox Jul 3, 2014 @ 5:44am 
t2 weapons = spam
Shotguns are overpowered, and this is why. Taken from http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3173392 concerning max range of various weapons:


SMG Silent = 181 feet or 2176 world units

Pistol, SMG, Mp5 = 202 feet or 2432 world units

All shotguns, AK, M4, M60, Desert Rifle and SG552 = 245 feet or 2944 units

Deagle = 288 feet or 3456 world units.

All snipers = 682 feet or 8192 world units.

It's not the shotgun damage that matters, it's their range. While it's perfectly reasonable that sniper rifles have extremely long range, it's completely ridiculous to see that shotguns have the third longest range out of the weapons. Shotguns - tier 1 and 2- have just as much max range as the automatic rifles, and even have more than tier 1 machine guns and pistols.

Shotguns *should* have massive point blank damage, but when their power extends over an absurdly large length there is a problem. Auto-shotgun users are able to do things like kill smokers on the roofs in Dead Center, or shoot boomers from across the map. It's extremely overpowered.
Weaver Jul 3, 2014 @ 6:25am 
I would say it's "OP" in the sense there's no damage drop off such that at mid-range(which is normally a rifle's MED): a shotgun spammer can deal more dps compared when realistically that's not fair. Specifically: Each pellet is about 26-28 damage so if 9-11 pellets are coming at you at; theoretically shotguns can do more damage at a quicker rate, at the same distance rifles normally do, without that much skill. -The last part is where I can see some people really take offense.

9 pellets is what Combat shotgun dispenses, but tighter spread. 11 pellets if you're looking at the Tactical shotgun(aka..auto-shottie).
Last edited by Weaver; Jul 3, 2014 @ 6:29am
T2 shotguns are only way to kill a Charger in a second
3bx Jun 5 @ 2:38am 
T2 Shotguns are so overpowered there is a server CVar that dictates how much damage it can deal to the Tank.

z_tank_autoshotgun_dmg_scale : 0.85 : percent damage taken by the tank from the autoshotgun

That's right. The auto-shotgun's DPS is so powerful that there is a built in damage scale just for them that makes them only deal 85% of their damage to Tanks. They still melt Tanks however.
Last edited by 3bx; Jun 5 @ 2:38am
Originally posted by s10055072:
T2 shotguns are only way to kill a Charger in a second

or you could just melee haha
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