El Guffo Jul 26 @ 4:57pm
Why do you need 200+ hours to be considered even remotely competent?
Does it really take that long to learn how to play a fairly simple shooter?

Pre-emtive response to the community: No, I'm not raging. This has never once happened to me, I have never played with anyone who's not on my Friends List. I've just noticed that the community as a whole puts stupid expectations on everyone.
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dave Jul 26 @ 5:01pm 
Because ho one ever learned to play baseball in one afternoon. Not and be good at it.
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Restless Jul 26 @ 5:02pm 
Its much more than a simple shooter. Generally speaking, there is one expectation: to be more useful than a bot. Many people fail at this.

To start, http://steamcommunity.com/app/550/discussions/0/558751179401182547/
Canadian Steak Beater Jul 26 @ 5:05pm 
Anyone can shoot things and run forward. Not everyone can work together and cooperatively as a team. It's not the hours that are expected of a player to be competent but its really the only way to gauge the potential competence of a player and trust them not to get you killed.

A player with 4000+ hours can still make a stupid mistake resulting in everyone getting screwed, and a player with only 50+ hours can still make big moves that save the team from certain doom. But you would expect the opposite to happen from either of them because there's no other testament of someones level to take into account in the game.
[linux] sophia hapgood Jul 26 @ 5:38pm 
Someone who is extremely good at other FPS can be pretty good at L4D2 first few times. In general, low-hour competent players (at least in realism) are either alt accounts or former xbox/cracked players. Occasionally there are decent L4D converts or people who are good at other FPS, but almost always the good players only happen above 300-500 hours, at least 150.
lil_meow Jul 26 @ 7:42pm 
Actually you could go watch a bunch of youtube videos about being survivor/infected and start the game w/ 0 hrs and be better than 90 percent of the players.
dave Jul 26 @ 7:46pm 
Originally posted by lil_meow:
Actually you could go watch a bunch of youtube videos about being survivor/infected and start the game w/ 0 hrs and be better than 90 percent of the players.

thats like saying you can play baseball because you watched it on tv. fact of the matter is you have to play the game for a long period of time to get good at it
[†]Munkee_King[†] Jul 26 @ 9:05pm 
Originally posted by lil_meow:
Actually you could go watch a bunch of youtube videos about being survivor/infected and start the game w/ 0 hrs and be better than 90 percent of the players.

I watched a kid jump from 1 side of a map to the other with a hunter without touching the ground.. I know exactly how he did it, doesn't mean I can do it. Same with the trick shots I saw on call of duty videos. Like bouncing a tomahawk on 4 walls and hit a sniper.
XP Jul 26 @ 10:14pm 
its not like counter strike. Here you have to learn how to play in team, how to attack as infected.
GreenHeart Lvl 5.0 Jul 26 @ 11:01pm 
Because this is the only way to "prove" who you are "good" or not, just think about it, if really likes you L4D2 & you think who you are really good player, your hrs on record say it all.
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XP Jul 26 @ 11:46pm 
Originally posted by GreenHeart Lvl 4.0:
Because this is the only way to "prove" who you are "good" or not, just think about it, if really likes you L4D2 & you think who you are really good player, your hrs on record say it all.
Its not about good or bad, its about XP. You may have shooting skills, but this its a bit different. Anyways put a pro player with 3 beginers. That pro player will look like a beginer. Point is, during the game you will identify urself as a team.
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GreenHeart Lvl 5.0 Jul 27 @ 1:02am 
Originally posted by J.M.C.:
Originally posted by GreenHeart Lvl 4.0:
Because this is the only way to "prove" who you are "good" or not, just think about it, if really likes you L4D2 & you think who you are really good player, your hrs on record say it all.
Its not about good or bad, its about XP. You may have shooting skills, but this its a bit different. Anyways put a pro player with 3 beginers. That pro player will look like a beginer. Point is, during the game you will identify urself as a team.


"You may have shooting skills," Hmmm,,, Not really, because this is L4D2

"but this its a bit different"

obviously that is different, this is not shoot the duck & the XP of which you speak is taking place, as I said 2 comments above, through the hours of play if you talk about how much XP you need to be considered "competent" Well ... I just tell you that to be considered "good to play" you need day by day training if you earn more XP, that hrs, I repeat, the hrs is just a symbol of what you've been able to learn DEVELOP or over time, only you yourself are your own judge, or not?? (:
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XP Jul 27 @ 1:34am 
Originally posted by GreenHeart Lvl 4.0:
Originally posted by J.M.C.:
Its not about good or bad, its about XP. You may have shooting skills, but this its a bit different. Anyways put a pro player with 3 beginers. That pro player will look like a beginer. Point is, during the game you will identify urself as a team.


"You may have shooting skills," Hmmm,,, Not really, because this is L4D2

"but this its a bit different"

obviously that is different, this is not shoot the duck & the XP of which you speak is taking place, as I said 2 comments above, through the hours of play if you talk about how much XP you need to be considered "competent" Well ... I just tell you that to be considered "good to play" you need day by day training if you earn more XP, that hrs, I repeat, the hrs is just a symbol of what you've been able to learn DEVELOP or over time, only you yourself are your own judge, or not?? (:
Im saying againg, its about xp, teamplay, infected engaging rules. experience. First thing I did, when I bought this game and before I played vs mode, was to read the Guidelines. But I do things old fashion way.
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GreenHeart Lvl 5.0 Jul 27 @ 2:39am 
Ok (:
提拉me苏 Jul 27 @ 2:43am 
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Plekpot Jul 27 @ 5:44am 
I barely ever played versus, only expert campaigns. I don't really mind how much hours you have, only that you are a team player and have quick reflexes. After having played 30-40 hours I didn't get much more proficient over time.
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