miringains Aug 13, 2014 @ 5:12pm
All Survival maps should be like the Helms Deep Reborn one...
Seriously, this is far more enjoyable to play than any of the survival ones where you can't actually win (I don't a count a gold medal as quite the same thing.)

Give me a scenario where you fall back or progress to different parts of the map with the ultimate goal of surviving the waves of enemies instead please Steam. Hopefully L4D3 is inspired by Helms Deep but I doubt it.
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dustinandband Aug 13, 2014 @ 5:34pm 
gets boring though, cause when you're good enough to beat it every time where's the challenge?

With survival, the best players / teams always get the highest times (world records). It's always something to strive for to achieve a world record. The better you get as a player and teamate, the higher time your team will achieve naturally.

Not meaning to dis custom maps like helms, because they're pretty amazing, but after a couple times winning it there's nothing else to win. You know you'll win every time and it quickly becomes boring.
miringains Aug 14, 2014 @ 11:15am 
Originally posted by dustinandband:
gets boring though, cause when you're good enough to beat it every time where's the challenge?

With survival, the best players / teams always get the highest times (world records). It's always something to strive for to achieve a world record. The better you get as a player and teamate, the higher time your team will achieve naturally.

Not meaning to dis custom maps like helms, because they're pretty amazing, but after a couple times winning it there's nothing else to win. You know you'll win every time and it quickly becomes boring.

Not true. It's a challenge winning it with random people online, you can't carry the team. That's what makes it so great. You rarely win. Yes if you play with friends/people you know are good it takes the challenge out of it, but for most people Helm type maps > normal survival. This is shown by the popularity of the map.
dustinandband Aug 14, 2014 @ 2:41pm 
oh lol. Well 85% of the time I win with noobs and I got to 15 mins with bots (could've gone farther if I didn't mess up the hold from 9-15 minutes). Trust me there's no challenge.
dustinandband Aug 14, 2014 @ 2:41pm 
beating it with bots would be a challenge I guess. or just 2 survivors and no bots
miringains Aug 14, 2014 @ 5:37pm 
Originally posted by dustinandband:
oh lol. Well 85% of the time I win with noobs and I got to 15 mins with bots (could've gone farther if I didn't mess up the hold from 9-15 minutes). Trust me there's no challenge.

Lol, such a little liar. Add me and we'll game together, see who gets the most kills ;) Trust me, you don't win it 50+% time with players.
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Date Posted: Aug 13, 2014 @ 5:12pm
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