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Marcus101RR Is Gay 2013年2月26日 19時45分
Bots use Throwables!?!?
I just started a new lobby today, joined a game, and these bots used Pipebombs and molotovs!?
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★ ♪ Λlca†raZ ♫ ★ (禁止済) 2013年2月26日 19時52分 
Modded server, nothing more.
Marcus101RR Is Gay 2013年2月26日 19時54分 
♪ †ΔLÇΔTŔΔZ†™ ♬ の投稿を引用:
Modded server, nothing more.

It is about time they learned how to use those...
Bindal 2013年2月27日 4時44分 
Throwing them is possible even in the standard game during a specific situation (mainly a player leaves or goes idle while holding a throwable and there is an enemy in view, bots tend to throw whatever they were holding, similar how they WILL eat pills if you give them to them while they are shooting) and they were able to use them when you turned on bot_mimic.

HOWEVER, if CS is anything to go by (and it should, considering that its bots are from the same guys as L4D is and they probably used quite some routines from CS like how to aim and shoot), the it is a really good thing that they can't pick up or use throwables.
The reason is that the bots in CS were absolutely HORRIBLE with throwing grenades of any kind and more often damaged themselves and their team than the enemy. And I imagine that the bots in L4D would probably have the same issues when they would have throwables. But they refuse to pick them up anyway, so they don't steal them from actual players and potentially waste that throwable.
Marcus101RR Is Gay 2013年2月27日 10時44分 
Bindal の投稿を引用:
Throwing them is possible even in the standard game during a specific situation (mainly a player leaves or goes idle while holding a throwable and there is an enemy in view, bots tend to throw whatever they were holding, similar how they WILL eat pills if you give them to them while they are shooting) and they were able to use them when you turned on bot_mimic.

HOWEVER, if CS is anything to go by (and it should, considering that its bots are from the same guys as L4D is and they probably used quite some routines from CS like how to aim and shoot), the it is a really good thing that they can't pick up or use throwables.
The reason is that the bots in CS were absolutely HORRIBLE with throwing grenades of any kind and more often damaged themselves and their team than the enemy. And I imagine that the bots in L4D would probably have the same issues when they would have throwables. But they refuse to pick them up anyway, so they don't steal them from actual players and potentially waste that throwable.

Well I experienced none of that. The bots picked up Pipe Bombs and Molotovs on sight, and they used them when mobs or a horde was getting close. They even used Molotovs on tanks on sight...

I only wish I could find that server again.
Bindal 2013年3月3日 13時54分 
Alli L. の投稿を引用:
They even used Molotovs on tanks on sight...
Prime-example, why they shouldn't use throwables. Every experienced player in L4D can tell you that you should usually AVOID setting the Tank on fire unless you got tons of obstacles he has to climb over to slow him down.
Reason is that a burning Tank is FASTER than a non-burning Tank and the fire on him doesn't deal any actual damage - it just plain kills the Tank after about 90 seconds (which is, btw, longer than it would take to just shoot him in most situations)
Marcus101RR 2013年3月4日 13時28分 
Bindal の投稿を引用:
Alli L. の投稿を引用:
They even used Molotovs on tanks on sight...
Prime-example, why they shouldn't use throwables. Every experienced player in L4D can tell you that you should usually AVOID setting the Tank on fire unless you got tons of obstacles he has to climb over to slow him down.
Reason is that a burning Tank is FASTER than a non-burning Tank and the fire on him doesn't deal any actual damage - it just plain kills the Tank after about 90 seconds (which is, btw, longer than it would take to just shoot him in most situations)

Try telling that to the noobs I play with, they say on the contrary tank on fire is slow and better. Then I get banned, kicked, shunned...
Bindal 2013年3月5日 0時18分 
Marcus101RR の投稿を引用:
Bindal の投稿を引用:
Prime-example, why they shouldn't use throwables. Every experienced player in L4D can tell you that you should usually AVOID setting the Tank on fire unless you got tons of obstacles he has to climb over to slow him down.
Reason is that a burning Tank is FASTER than a non-burning Tank and the fire on him doesn't deal any actual damage - it just plain kills the Tank after about 90 seconds (which is, btw, longer than it would take to just shoot him in most situations)

Try telling that to the noobs I play with, they say on the contrary tank on fire is slow and better. Then I get banned, kicked, shunned...
L4D2-Players, most likely as there, it is true.
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