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herc (Banned) May 17, 2013 @ 6:52am
Can someone explain why they need a experimental pyschologist for left 4 dead 2?
I know this is relevant to l4d2, not l4d1, but im still banned by the hatemachine known as chet faliskz in the l4d2 gamehub.

Seriously can someone explain this to me?

"Jeffrey Lin holds a PhD in Cognitive Neuroscience from the University of Washington. Before joining Riot’s player behavior team and eventually becoming lead designer of Social Systems, Lin worked at Valve Software with experimental psychologist Mike Ambinder, conducting research on games like Left 4 Dead 2 and DOTA 2"
source - http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/05/using-science-to-reform-toxic-player-behavior-in-league-of-legends/

Why do they need behavior and experimental pyschologists for a game that never had any anti griefing measure built in?

It makes me wonder if the 3 month long ddos campaign against me wasnt just the work of a grand social experiment on valves terms?

I beleive it.
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Stark May 18, 2013 @ 12:25pm 
Hahaha i agree with Chet Fattysex, he bans you if you say something bad about l4d2.
Bindal May 19, 2013 @ 4:53am 
If it's L4D2-related, why do you post it here? This is L4D1-only.
herc (Banned) May 19, 2013 @ 5:24am 
Bindal Please Read The First Topic
Bindal May 19, 2013 @ 7:41am 
Originally posted by Herc:
Bindal Please Read The First Topic
This is the L4D1-Forum. The topic is related to L4D2-only. Hence, it doesn't belong here. That hard to understand?
herc (Banned) May 19, 2013 @ 6:54pm 
Well if you could actually READ.

I know this is relevant to l4d2, not l4d1, but im still banned by the hatemachine known as chet faliskz in the l4d2 gamehub.
herc (Banned) May 19, 2013 @ 6:56pm 
Chet bans me for being upset over getting DDOSED for two months and bans me with a message telling me to cool down.

Good Days.

Havent, and wont play a valve game ever again.
Regret the 100 so hours pumped into dota 2 :).
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herc (Banned) May 19, 2013 @ 6:58pm 
BUT No one seems to understand or maybe they just dont care that valve is playing mindgames with their player base.
Good Day :). FLAME ON!
Ŧђɇ ƼϮϞ §μȑ√iⱴ۞ѓ May 19, 2013 @ 9:08pm 
Well it is rather awkward, but according to that article, the main goal is to reduce negative behavior from players that disrupt others in the community. Sounds to me like they just want to keep all their customers instead of getting rid of people with negative attitudes. This way everyone plays the game to actually have fun and not bash/insult/harass or do any other negative things in the community. One thing they need to take into account is that those negative people are like that due to their real life situations, not because of any video game. It shouldn't be therir jobs to babysit and parent the playerbase. However, if what they are doing is effective, then I'm all for it because there are too many ♥♥♥♥♥s doing unbelievably stupid things in the community.
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Bindal May 20, 2013 @ 12:18am 
Originally posted by Herc:
Well if you could actually READ.

I know this is relevant to l4d2, not l4d1, but im still banned by the hatemachine known as chet faliskz in the l4d2 gamehub.
I read that - and that is still no free pass to post something not related to L4D1 in the L4D1-Forum.
herc (Banned) May 20, 2013 @ 11:25am 
Originally posted by Ŧђɇ ƼϮϞ §μȑ√iⱴ۞ѓ:
Well it is rather awkward, but according to that article, the main goal is to reduce negative behavior from players that disrupt others in the community. Sounds to me like they just want to keep all their customers instead of getting rid of people with negative attitudes. This way everyone plays the game to actually have fun and not bash/insult/harass or do any other negative things in the community. One thing they need to take into account is that those negative people are like that due to their real life situations, not because of any video game. It shouldn't be therir jobs to babysit and parent the playerbase. However, if what they are doing is effective, then I'm all for it because there are too many ♥♥♥♥♥s doing unbelievably stupid things in the community.

Thats the thing, i know dota 2 has anti greifing measures. (Reports, Low Priorty Queus, More Reports = less item drops and more chest drops (making ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥s pay more for the game)

But what about left 4 dead 2, i wouldnt exactly call the "kick vote" a anti griefing measure because it does not punish players for bad behavior.

Which is why I think they hired them to do social experiements on their player base and make some extra money on the side.
I still think the DDOSing that is STILL occuring in left 4 dead 2 ( or ping bombing ) is a social experiment orchestrated by valve and their crew. It really is the only logical explanation for me.

Otherwise valve could stop the ping bombing, but instead chet emails me and tells me to check my routher.


okkkkkk chet my little old router is denial of servicing thousands of game servers.

Good Day.
=☣☢ⓒⓐⓜⓔⓛ☢☣= May 20, 2013 @ 1:45pm 
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