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treadbolt020 Aug 14 @ 9:10pm
Why is there so much love for left 4 dead 2 but not left 4 dead?
Title says everything

why is there so much love for L4D2 but not L4D?

"because it has ported campaigns"

almost everything L4D has beat L4D2.

+legs
+scarier horde scream
+balanced weapon choice
+balanced special infected
+last stand
+loud panic events
+endable panic events
+classic mapping style
+content used from other valve games
+survivor ragdolls
+motion suit deaths
+better infected skins

Yet L4D2 rarely had any of these things and it deserves more love just because it has ported campaigns?
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Kurtzu Aug 15 @ 12:04am 
you do have a very good point there but also L4D2 has better mods, new maps and new infected. i do rather L4D2 but L4D has better features as you said i just rather L4D2
manul Aug 15 @ 12:45am 
Like previous one the second will be dead as soon as the third will come out.

PS: +faster startup and map load/unload speed
Kurtzu Aug 15 @ 12:49am 
yea
Edmundo Studios Aug 15 @ 2:51am 
The pros generally outweigh the cons in favor to L4D2 but I do love the animations, legs and movement pace in the first game.
Squid Aug 15 @ 5:16am 
You love legs? Thanks for letting us know
Edmundo Studios Aug 15 @ 5:22am 
Originally posted by 125:
You love legs? Thanks for letting us know

It takes you out of the game when you cant see your own legs in a first person shooter
RainingMetal Aug 15 @ 5:46am 
Because people take the statement "The content of Left 4 Dead 1 is in Left 4 Dead 2" at face value. This is a lie. There are many differences people will constantly fail to acknowledge.
Kurtzu Aug 15 @ 5:56am 
Originally posted by RainingMetal:
Because people take the statement "The content of Left 4 Dead 1 is in Left 4 Dead 2" at face value. This is a lie. There are many differences people will constantly fail to acknowledge.
TRUE THAT

MastaGT Aug 15 @ 1:58pm 
because l4d 1 for me at least feels very clunky not as smoothe for some reason, i think the engine was optimized a bit better for l4d2 if fim not mistaken *maybe am*. l4d2 feels solid, imo better visuals
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treadbolt020 Aug 15 @ 4:09pm 
Originally posted by MastaGT:
because l4d 1 for me at least feels very clunky not as smoothe for some reason, i think the engine was optimized a bit better for l4d2 if fim not mistaken *maybe am*. l4d2 feels solid, imo better visuals

you mean like when your shooting and running your gun is shaking? that's realistic L4D2 had your head glued onto the gun that's why.
*ncs*KiRA-[EST] Aug 16 @ 6:57am 
I thought the first game was developed from Rock Turtle Studios, second from Valve and now Turtle makes the third game again.
Slacker Aug 16 @ 10:26am 
I feel the same way. (rant inbound)
Left 4 Dead 2 is like a cheap ripoff from the first one. The new characters are less likeable, levels modified in stupid ways (no railings next to a huge sewage pool in death toll, for instance), animations broken (smoker starts pulling 2 seconds after the tongue has grabbed you, coach model shooting in random directions hes not actually shooting in, etc), broken hitboxes (zombies hit me all the time when they should not hit me, jockeys as well as hunters come around the corner, next thing I see is them on me, they dont spend any time actually jumping on you), stupid focus on melee weapons by lowering max ammo for guns, enabling melee fatigure for coop games(for shoving, but not for swinging an axe? what?) and adding never ending (♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥) / running horde events, etc etc. (if you want to play a realistic zombie game, l4d2 is NOT the game, stop forcing me into using crappy(ly implemented) melee weapons and trying to give me the feeling ammo is sparse)
Only good things I can see about the sequel is that there are more campaigns installed by default (unlike addons, that most people dont seem to have nor can be bothered to download), better graphics (okay, the commons look like clowns, and the specials look worse too imo, but the overall graphics are better, textures have higher resolution) and the concept of the bile bomb.
treadbolt020 Aug 16 @ 2:01pm 
Originally posted by Slacker:
I feel the same way. (rant inbound)
Left 4 Dead 2 is like a cheap ripoff from the first one. The new characters are less likeable, levels modified in stupid ways (no railings next to a huge sewage pool in death toll, for instance), animations broken (smoker starts pulling 2 seconds after the tongue has grabbed you, coach model shooting in random directions hes not actually shooting in, etc), broken hitboxes (zombies hit me all the time when they should not hit me, jockeys as well as hunters come around the corner, next thing I see is them on me, they dont spend any time actually jumping on you), stupid focus on melee weapons by lowering max ammo for guns, enabling melee fatigure for coop games(for shoving, but not for swinging an axe? what?) and adding never ending (♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥) / running horde events, etc etc. (if you want to play a realistic zombie game, l4d2 is NOT the game, stop forcing me into using crappy(ly implemented) melee weapons and trying to give me the feeling ammo is sparse)
Only good things I can see about the sequel is that there are more campaigns installed by default (unlike addons, that most people dont seem to have nor can be bothered to download), better graphics (okay, the commons look like clowns, and the specials look worse too imo, but the overall graphics are better, textures have higher resolution) and the concept of the bile bomb.

Bile bomb in my opinion was stupid you throw it and.... ........................

why not just throw a pipe so it drags all the zombies there and Blow's them up?

Also same goes with the modified crane part in left 4 dead how are you going to keep people off the crane? put a fence simple. with the modified part 2 you could see anyone could go up on the crane.
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Slacker Aug 16 @ 4:07pm 
Well the bile comes in handy in certain situations.
I like how it completes the throwables .. molly does damage over long time but does not lure, pipe lures but does short damage, and then the bile lures over a long time but does not damage.
They all have their use cases .. generally I prefer the pipe over everything too though, except for the running events
Last edited by Slacker; Aug 16 @ 4:07pm
Omnom Aug 20 @ 4:21pm 
Originally posted by treadbolt020:
+motion suit deaths

What?

I think L4D2 is more popular because it has more content. I guess people are bored of the few guns, no melee weapons etc in L4D. It's got mutators, scavenge and the workshop.
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