Any tips on Zer0 in TVHM?

[Mem-Cho]

So I've quit this game long ago cause in TVHM I basically can't do nothing as Zer0, but now came back. I was going on the Bloodshed tree and now switched to Cunning and Sniper, it made it easier, although I still suck hard and feel that my weapons are very weak.. completed the Tina dlc so far.

[Sighpie]

I was using bloodshed tree with rubi + love thumper and I can solo all the way until the late TVHM. I changed back to sniper just because the shield was underleveled.

[Mem-Cho]

Originally posted by NateTheNewb:

What level do you happen to be? If you feel like you're lacking when it comes to decent weapons, have you tried farming Gettle for a Lyuda?

48 by now.

[Nakos]

Don't really play Zer0 myself, but you might want to consider posting your build: http://bl2skills.com/assassin.html#000000000000000000000000000000

What level are your most used weapons? If they're under-leveled, that could be part of the problem.

[Mem-Cho]

Originally posted by Nakos:

Don't really play Zer0 myself, but you might want to consider posting your build: http://bl2skills.com/assassin.html#000000000000000000000000000000

What level are your most used weapons? If they're under-leveled, that could be part of the problem.

http://bl2skills.com/assassin.html#505501100051355105010000000000 Here it is.
After I've changed my build, I started to use a Jacob's sniper rifle which is level 47 and doing 15994 damage.

[Nakos]

Hm... well, I can't really comment on the build, but there are some Zer0 experts who might chime in. Personally, I've never understood how Zer0 survives at all with so few healing skills. I'm more comfortable with Maya, Axton, and Gaige, all of whom are fairly durable, and all of whom have access to fairly solid passive heals.

The Jacobs Sniper seems okay for it's level, but things do start to scale up rapidly at that level, so keep an eye out for an upgrade.

[Mem-Cho]

Originally posted by Nakos:

Hm... well, I can't really comment on the build, but there are some Zer0 experts who might chime in. Personally, I've never understood how Zer0 survives at all with so few healing skills. I'm more comfortable with Maya, Axton, and Gaige, all of whom are fairly durable, and all of whom have access to fairly solid passive heals.

The Jacobs Sniper seems okay for it's level, but things do start to scale up rapidly at that level, so keep an eye out for an upgrade.

I am also trying Maya now, level 22, but there is the same problem, even with the toxic cloud I just die from everything..

[Nakos]

Hmm.. well, I died a lot when I was first playing too.

Some of it is learning the maps, and the enemies, some of it is learning avoidance skills. Don't try to stand and take hits, don't be afraid to run. Jumping, weaving (strafing from side to side as you run away), use cover, stay in motion.

Um... match elements to what you're fighting. Sometimes it may not be much help, but every little bit is good. Fire for animals and bandits, Corrosive for armored and mechanical, Shock for anything with shields. Explosive is equally good against everything (though not as good as a specific element that a given enemy is weak to).

Maya is really good with elemental damage, and Flicker can really boost that at low levels. I also usually point a few points in Sweet Release (and eventually 5 of 5).

Try a Cat Class mod (with a SMG) if you can find one.

[Mem-Cho]

Originally posted by Nakos:

Hmm.. well, I died a lot when I was first playing too.

Some of it is learning the maps, and the enemies, some of it is learning avoidance skills. Don't try to stand and take hits, don't be afraid to run. Jumping, weaving (strafing from side to side as you run away), use cover, stay in motion.

Um... match elements to what you're fighting. Sometimes it may not be much help, but every little bit is good. Fire for animals and bandits, Corrosive for armored and mechanical, Shock for anything with shields. Explosive is equally good against everything (though not as good as a specific element that a given enemy is weak to).

Maya is really good with elemental damage, and Flicker can really boost that at low levels. I also usually point a few points in Sweet Release (and eventually 5 of 5).

Try a Cat Class mod (with a SMG) if you can find one.

It doesn't help. You really think I am just standing when enemies are shooting? Still, thanks for the reply.

[SparksFly]

there is a youtuber name MajorSlackAttack who has done a full playthrough on the Assasin in TVHM. you could get tips from him.

[injected11]

Originally posted by Acolyte:

http://bl2skills.com/assassin.html#505501100051355105010000000000 Here it is.
After I've changed my build, I started to use a Jacob's sniper rifle which is level 47 and doing 15994 damage.

The build looks kinda off. You invested heavily in Cunning to get kunais, but you aren't spec'd into melee at all to take advantage of them, and kunais aren't particularly useful if you're sitting back and sniping. Seems like lots of wasted skill points. This is just a quick pass, but it should work out better for TVHM if you're just sniping..
http://bl2skills.com/assassin.html#505051550150055100000000000000

[Atlar]

Originally posted by Acolyte:

Originally posted by Nakos:

Hmm.. well, I died a lot when I was first playing too.

Some of it is learning the maps, and the enemies, some of it is learning avoidance skills. Don't try to stand and take hits, don't be afraid to run. Jumping, weaving (strafing from side to side as you run away), use cover, stay in motion.

Um... match elements to what you're fighting. Sometimes it may not be much help, but every little bit is good. Fire for animals and bandits, Corrosive for armored and mechanical, Shock for anything with shields. Explosive is equally good against everything (though not as good as a specific element that a given enemy is weak to).

Maya is really good with elemental damage, and Flicker can really boost that at low levels. I also usually point a few points in Sweet Release (and eventually 5 of 5).

Try a Cat Class mod (with a SMG) if you can find one.

It doesn't help. You really think I am just standing when enemies are shooting? Still, thanks for the reply.

If you die vs everything at lvl 22 then your movement/positioning/tactic cannot be good. In general you can only take a few hits before going down, so play accordingly:
1) Take cover, pop out for some shots and take cover again. Sniping from range will make it easier as enemies will miss you most of the time.
2) Debilitate or distract the enemy: Phaselock, singularity/slag grenade, gaige's deathtrap, axtons turret etc.
3) Kill enemies even faster than they can kill you: Gaige + anarchy, Sal + gunzerking, melee Zer0 + decepti0n etc.
4) Recover hitpoints faster than they deplete: Gaige + blood soaked shields, Zer0 + resurgence, Moxxi weapons, transfusion grenades etc.

The game is actually rather easy if you play it smart but if you play with the brain in holiday mode it can be pretty nasty.
Although, if you are looking for an easier/simpler game then I can recommend Gaige. No need for accurate aiming, brutal damage and good survivability. Also heard that Salvador is easy to play but haven't tried myself.

o/

[SkippyTrippy]

you need to slag enemies

[Mem-Cho]

Originally posted by SkippyTrippy:

you need to slag enemies

Right, I forgot, lol.

[DAYNJA]

Beehawk. Deception when shield goes down. I didn't even use slag in TVHM. Bore, Deathmark and Death Blossom probably most useful.

[you're not thinking creatively]

I don't find Beehawking or any other SMGs particularly useful for (sniper) Zer0, as he's all about getting damage out in as small a number of shots as possible and disappearing after these one / two shots. Bee + Sand Hawk does do damage in a single burst fire but the reason it works so well for Maya is because she can really spam it with a high rate of fire.

OP, you may find a Bee handy. I enjoy the rhythm of ordinary amp shields but the Bee does pretty well with Zer0 too. You can get it from the Treants in the Tina DLC.

If you're struggling with survivability (understandable with Zer0, he's a glass canon) you may find a Moxxi weapon helpful. If you pick up a Grog Nozzle (by taking the quest 'The Beard Makes the Man' in the Tina DL) you will be healed 65% of any damage you do, including melee and grenade damage. It's a really helpful way of getting health regen. Zer0 is the only character I really use it for before endgame as he is so fragile.

Keep in mind that grenades will not break Decepti0n. Throwing grenades while you're in stealth can be a useful way of softening enemies up or slagging them. You might find the 'magic' grenades in the TIna DLC, which regen grenade ammo, are helpful. I also like Transfusion grenades, especially slag ones.

Re Maya, Sweet Release as Nakos said can be a godsend. You might find Harmony is a good tree to go down if you're struggling to survive. Sweet Release, then Wreck, then Elation. By the time you get to Life Tap you're golden.