WTF @ Mines of Avarice / Hatred's Shadow?!

[l3l_aze]

I'm trying to finish my first play through of this game and I'm currently getting repeatedly screwed in the ass down in the Mines.

I've made it to the second set of shops at least twice now, where they're back to back at a slight angle at a little kiosk and there's a damn save point right there too.

No matter what though I keep getting reset to the Hatred's Shadow if I die, or save and reload later.

Is this a bug? If so, can it be fixed?

If this is intentional I'm done with this f'n BS.

[Lord Cyphre]

If you die, you will respawn at the last checkpoint you activated.

If you save and quit without finishing the map however, you will respawn at the last fast travel station or level transition you passed.

You have to defeat the Handsome Sorcerers Dragon and move on to the "Lair of Infinite Agony" to save your progress.

This an intentional design decision. Maps get repopulated and bosses respawn, which allows you to play the game on an endless loop, hunting for loot and farming bosses for their best drops.

[l3l_aze]

Yes, I know all that about resetting and the map repopulating, but as far as I recall in every other area *except the mines* I have reset to the last checkpoint I walked near and auto-saved at, which it *is* doing near the two shops. This has happened when I save or die.

So I'm **expected to spend hours on this one area without stopping to do anything else** just to make it through? Because if that's the case Gearbox can join so many other companies on the list of collections of people who can kiss my ass -- I loved the game up until now, but it's not worth all of the rage it's going to cause me struggling to make it through this, along with likely murdering my PC, just to attempt to finish the game.

[Lord Cyphre]

Originally posted by l3l_aze:

Yes, I know all that about resetting and the map repopulating, but as far as I recall in every other area *except the mines* I have reset to the last checkpoint I walked near and auto-saved at, which it *is* doing near the two shops. This has happened when I save or die.

You will respawn at the last checkpoint if you die but not if you save & quit.
This applies to all the areas in the game, so you might remember it wrong.

If you don't respawn at the latest save point after dying something isn't working as intended, though I don't know what could be causing the issue.

[Shedding my mortal skin]

Did you actually wait for the fast-travel unit to set up?

[l3l_aze]

@Lord Cyphre: Yeah, it's probably something that's broken... FMMFL.


@Y'arr: There's no fast travel unit there, at least none that I saw yet. I made it there this morning and then let it auto-save (made sure it was finished of course), then did Escape to go to Menu and then pressed Save and Quit, then quit the game + Steam and went to bed. Started the game back up and I'm down at freaking Hatred's Shadow again. Climbed my way back up the mountain yet again and got killed by some douche just on the other side of those shops, and then reset to the bottom of the mountain and I tried to run my way back up past the respawned asshats I'd already killed along the way and died again, and that's when I gave up.

[Lord Cyphre]

"Hatreds Shadow" is the area after the "Mines of Avarice".
That's where you are supposed to start if you haven't made it to the "Lair of infinite Agony" yet.

[Shedding my mortal skin]

Originally posted by l3l_aze:

@Y'arr: There's no fast travel unit there, at least none that I saw yet. I made it there this morning and then let it auto-save (made sure it was finished of course), then did Escape to go to Menu and then pressed Save and Quit, then quit the game + Steam and went to bed. Started the game back up and I'm down at freaking Hatred's Shadow again. Climbed my way back up the mountain yet again and got killed by some douche just on the other side of those shops, and then reset to the bottom of the mountain and I tried to run my way back up past the respawned asshats I'd already killed along the way and died again, and that's when I gave up.

Ah. I thought the problem was that you exited the Mines, but ended up in the Mines after save/quitting.
Yeah. Until you get to the end of Hatred's Folly you can't get to another fast travel station.

[l3l_aze]

Oh, so as usual it's just me being a moron.. Yay.

Thank you, Y'arr and Lord Cyphre. Sorry for this pointless thread =\

[Draekus]

if the replies helped you out, then it's not a pointless thread....

[dontu_worry]

Originally posted by l3l_aze:

Oh, so as usual it's just me being a moron.. Yay.

Thank you, Y'arr and Lord Cyphre. Sorry for this pointless thread =\

No problem. You handled this like a boss.

[l3l_aze]

@Draekus: Yes, but if I wasn't such a moron in the first place that I thought it was a bug even though it's not I never would've gotten so pissed at the game about it and the thread never would've been created. Also "as usual" because I'm **that moron** that ends up doing stuff like this constantly, including after doing lots of research on my own and thinking I actually understand what's going on.

[Draekus]

don't beat yourself up over it. we've all done some dumb things while playing this game. it's a learning process, and yes, sometimes it's painful.

[Shedding my mortal skin]

Originally posted by l3l_aze:

@Draekus: Yes, but if I wasn't such a moron in the first place that I thought it was a bug even though it's not I never would've gotten so pissed at the game about it and the thread never would've been created. Also "as usual" because I'm **that moron** that ends up doing stuff like this constantly, including after doing lots of research on my own and thinking I actually understand what's going on.

Please. I still use Rubberized grenades. That mistake is nothing.

[Lord Cyphre]

Originally posted by Draekus:

don't beat yourself up over it. we've all done some dumb things while playing this game. it's a learning process, and yes, sometimes it's painful.

^

[l3l_aze]

Oh, I didn't mean just this, I meant in everything throughout my entire life.. Lol.

Yeah, it is. Already taken well over $600k from me in-game *just in that part of the map*; only reason it's not more is because I keep selling off garbage items I find...which is most of them.