Zer0 op lvls...any good guns not called dpuh/sandhawk/etc?

[ElysiuM]

Op5 atm....idk everything sucks except for the lyuda and norfleet...Alternative to the dpuh or sandhawk? Something non bee shield though...shotguns idk what im doing wrong they suck ass...twister, interfacer, everything garbage...what do i need to use to make them work...

[Lord Cyphre]

You´re doing something wrong if you can´t make the Interfacer work, it´s one of the most powerful guns in the game.

Other suggestions would be the Pimpernel, Lady Fist, Conference Call, Butcher, Bekah, Jolly Roger, Omen and Stinger to name a few.

The Hail & Kitten are good for healing while keeping the damage going.

Some good non uniques: Jakobs Shotguns such as the Quad or Coach gun, Maliwan Snipers such as the Rakehell and Snider, Vladof Droog Snipers and Anarchist Pistols, Jakobs and Dahl gatling guns for some high AR burst damage.

If you want to go Torgue, get a Ravager or Swordsplosion.

[LightChaosman]

Interfacer isnt for zer0.
Make use of deception, reload when you enter deception for OSOK, use a nade to slag your enemy and apply kunai. Wait for deception to almost end, then land a critical.
Enemy will be dead 99% of the time.
Conference call can be good, lady fist comes to mind.
Try the HUH (hard unkempt harold ^^)

[Lord Cyphre]

Originally posted by LightChaosman:

Interfacer isnt for zer0.

Works well as a second wind gun with the bonus to firerate from "Fearless".

[ElysiuM]

Originally posted by LightChaosman:

Interfacer isnt for zer0.
Make use of deception, reload when you enter deception for OSOK, use a nade to slag your enemy and apply kunai. Wait for deception to almost end, then land a critical.
Enemy will be dead 99% of the time.
Conference call can be good, lady fist comes to mind.
Try the HUH (hard unkempt harold ^^)

You just put into words what i do....well im not having difficulties, but its boring using the dpuh and sandhawk...i thought maybe there are some nice alternatives to try out

[LightChaosman]

Originally posted by Lord Cyphre:

Originally posted by LightChaosman:

Interfacer isnt for zer0.

Works well as a second wind gun with the bonus to firerate from "Fearless".

Fair enough. It's just not that great for general mobbing on pretty much anyone besides salvador because of its ammo consumption.
Of course, this changes with a hoarder sal in the team.
At least, that's my experience with the gun.

[Lord Cyphre]

Originally posted by LightChaosman:

Originally posted by Lord Cyphre:

Works well as a second wind gun with the bonus to firerate from "Fearless".

Fair enough. It's just not that great for general mobbing on pretty much anyone besides salvador because of its ammo consumption.
Of course, this changes with a hoarder sal in the team.
At least, that's my experience with the gun.

I don´t like it as a mobbing shotgun either but it´s great against badasses and boss type enemies aswell as being a good second wind gun because of it´s insane damage potential.

[ElysiuM]

Originally posted by Lord Cyphre:

You´re doing something wrong if you can´t make the Interfacer work, it´s one of the most powerful guns in the game.

Other suggestions would be the Pimpernel, Lady Fist, Conference Call, Butcher, Bekah, Jolly Roger, Omen and Stinger to name a few.

The Hail & Kitten are good for healing while keeping the damage going.

Some good non uniques: Jakobs Shotguns such as the Quad or Coach gun, Maliwan Snipers such as the Rakehell and Snider, Vladof Droog Snipers and Anarchist Pistols, Jakobs and Dahl gatling guns for some high AR burst damage.

If you want to go Torgue, get a Ravager or Swordsplosion.

Using pimp but its pretty average without be shield, and since im 5 points in velocity its well good, but jakobs for one shots against bandits, and lyuda for everything else. I must he doing something wrong, or im expecting the wrong thing...im kinda waiting for a shotgun to make one shot kills, barely works even against weaker enemies. Or im comparing them against dpuh etc where they cant hold up to...as for jolly roger, omen, and stinger...those i havent really heard about, will check them out. Swordsplosion i tried...♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ was it bad...feels like a white rarity pistol would make more damage....idk what im doing wrong

[shoopy]

Pimpernel and velocity don't mix.

[SunDrippedDevil]

Originally posted by ElysiuM:

Using pimp but its pretty average without be shield, and since im 5 points in velocity its well good, but jakobs for one shots against bandits, and lyuda for everything else. I must he doing something wrong, or im expecting the wrong thing...im kinda waiting for a shotgun to make one shot kills, barely works even against weaker enemies. Or im comparing them against dpuh etc where they cant hold up to...as for jolly roger, omen, and stinger...those i havent really heard about, will check them out. Swordsplosion i tried...♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ was it bad...feels like a white rarity pistol would make more damage....idk what im doing wrong

The pimpernel is one of the most powerful weapons in the game without the bee shield. The idea is to offset your aim (and aim lower) so that the ensuring flower of bullets spawns and comes out of a critical hitspot. You will do 5x critical hit damage.

Vel0city will also mess with how this weapon functions. It will cause the flower to activate much higher than the original point of impact, forcing you to offset your aim lower and lower (eventually youll be shooting the ground between enemies' legs)

Unskill from vel0city, take a pimpernel and shoot at a wall. See the distance there. Slowly add more and more points to ve0city and notice the change in the distance. Getting the feel for aiming and instinctively understanding where the sweet spots are is key to using the pimpernel. Personally, I do not skill vel0city at all.

It's my go to sniper for mobbing (I almost exclusively play Zer0)

P.S. you also want Lyuda(s). Especially for raiding. That gun also has a sweet spot that vel0city affects, but to a much more manageable degree than the pimpernel. The idea with that gun is to be the perfect distance away so that the initial projectile just splits into 3, causing you to do 3x critical hit damage. Vel0city causes the bullet to split further away. Vel0city is pretty good with the Lyuda though.

It's also pretty easy to farm, from Gettle in the Dust (The Good, the Bad, and the Mordecai)

[LightChaosman]

Originally posted by ElysiuM:

Originally posted by Lord Cyphre:

You´re doing something wrong if you can´t make the Interfacer work, it´s one of the most powerful guns in the game.

Other suggestions would be the Pimpernel, Lady Fist, Conference Call, Butcher, Bekah, Jolly Roger, Omen and Stinger to name a few.

The Hail & Kitten are good for healing while keeping the damage going.

Some good non uniques: Jakobs Shotguns such as the Quad or Coach gun, Maliwan Snipers such as the Rakehell and Snider, Vladof Droog Snipers and Anarchist Pistols, Jakobs and Dahl gatling guns for some high AR burst damage.

If you want to go Torgue, get a Ravager or Swordsplosion.

Using pimp but its pretty average without be shield, and since im 5 points in velocity its well good, but jakobs for one shots against bandits, and lyuda for everything else. I must he doing something wrong, or im expecting the wrong thing...im kinda waiting for a shotgun to make one shot kills, barely works even against weaker enemies. Or im comparing them against dpuh etc where they cant hold up to...as for jolly roger, omen, and stinger...those i havent really heard about, will check them out. Swordsplosion i tried...♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ was it bad...feels like a white rarity pistol would make more damage....idk what im doing wrong

The swordsplosion is awesome. I use it even on maya when I'm using a bee-less build, and she has no grenade or explosive damage buffs whatsoever.
Pimpernell is a god-tier sniper. Just don't spec into velocity, it ruins the pimpernell.

[ElysiuM]

Originally posted by SunDrippedDevil:

Originally posted by ElysiuM:

Using pimp but its pretty average without be shield, and since im 5 points in velocity its well good, but jakobs for one shots against bandits, and lyuda for everything else. I must he doing something wrong, or im expecting the wrong thing...im kinda waiting for a shotgun to make one shot kills, barely works even against weaker enemies. Or im comparing them against dpuh etc where they cant hold up to...as for jolly roger, omen, and stinger...those i havent really heard about, will check them out. Swordsplosion i tried...♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ was it bad...feels like a white rarity pistol would make more damage....idk what im doing wrong

The pimpernel is one of the most powerful weapons in the game. The idea is to offset your aim (and aim lower) so that the ensuring flower of bullets spawns and comes out of a critical hit spot.

Vel0city will also mess with how this weapon functions. It will cause the flower to activate much higher than the original point of impact, forcing you to offset your aim lower and lower (eventually youll be shooting the ground between enemies' legs)

Unskill from vel0city, take a pimpernel and shoot at a wall. See the distance there. Slowly add more and more points to ve0city and notice the change in the distance. Getting the feel for aiming and instinctively understanding where the sweet spots are is key to using the pimpernel. Personally, I do not skill vel0city at all.

Thanks for telling me but i was aware of all you said, thats why i pointed out i have 5 points in velocity... Idk i like velocity and dont really care about the pimp that much...well i might try taking out the points, but the lyuda is love, and the hawkeye is a beast for bandits...

[SunDrippedDevil]

Originally posted by ElysiuM:

Originally posted by SunDrippedDevil:

The pimpernel is one of the most powerful weapons in the game. The idea is to offset your aim (and aim lower) so that the ensuring flower of bullets spawns and comes out of a critical hit spot.

Vel0city will also mess with how this weapon functions. It will cause the flower to activate much higher than the original point of impact, forcing you to offset your aim lower and lower (eventually youll be shooting the ground between enemies' legs)

Unskill from vel0city, take a pimpernel and shoot at a wall. See the distance there. Slowly add more and more points to ve0city and notice the change in the distance. Getting the feel for aiming and instinctively understanding where the sweet spots are is key to using the pimpernel. Personally, I do not skill vel0city at all.

Thanks for telling me but i was aware of all you said, thats why i pointed out i have 5 points in velocity... Idk i like velocity and dont really care about the pimp that much...well i might try taking out the points, but the lyuda is love, and the hawkeye is a beast for bandits...

The pimpernel can turn you into a killing machine.

The Hawkeye is not a good choice for Zer0. The Hawkeye is good on pretty much anyone else except Zer0. This is because it has very low base damage. Zer0 has many skills and passives that modify and improve his critical hit damage. Despite the Hawkeye boasting 580% critical hit damage, it is actually a DPS downgrade for Zer0 the majority of the time. Even a purple Muckamuck will outdps it (due to the higher base damage). This difference becomes larger and larger with each stack of critical ascension.

Please don't use this sniper (unless you're a different character)

[SunDrippedDevil]

I'm probably gonna catch a lot of flak for this, but if you max precision and vel0city, the Skullmasher is very decent at close to mid range.

[Lord Cyphre]

Originally posted by SunDrippedDevil:

I'm probably gonna catch a lot of flak for this, but if you max precision and vel0city, the Skullmasher is very decent at close to mid range.

I like the Skullmasher. It´s fairly powerful, looks great and is unique in design and not just a straight stat upgrade from the Muckamuck.

Might aswell throw the "Longbow" in here aswell. Takes some time to get used to but it´s very powerful and so much fun to use.

[SunDrippedDevil]

Originally posted by Lord Cyphre:

Originally posted by SunDrippedDevil:

I'm probably gonna catch a lot of flak for this, but if you max precision and vel0city, the Skullmasher is very decent at close to mid range.

I like the Skullmasher. It´s fairly powerful, looks great and is unique in design and not just a straight stat upgrade from the Muckamuck.

Might aswell through the "Longbow" in here aswell. Takes some time to get used to but it´s very powerful and so much fun to use.

Yup. The longbow is very decent for an etech. Shame it only comes in fire...