Fallwor Nov 14, 2012 @ 10:28am
why no mac version?
cmon, most games have mac versions now. I really wanna play :(
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Cyanistic Nov 14, 2012 @ 11:03am 
See, if you had a pc, this wouldn't happen to you.
Volcano Nov 14, 2012 @ 3:01pm 
It was hard enough getting the game to work on windows but mac development is in the works but it is some time off
_UntLick Nov 14, 2012 @ 9:11pm 
hah... only elitists use mac's, WHO DO YOU WORK FOR !
Cornflakes Nov 15, 2012 @ 1:33am 
Wow, what a bunch of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥s.

Originally posted by Fallwor:
cmon, most games have mac versions now. I really wanna play :(
The developers have said since 2009 that they want to make a Mac version of NS2. They've been promising multiplatform support for a very long time. If it was as simple as just changing a couple lines of code to make a Mac version, they'd do it in a heartbeat. Unfortunately, porting a game to Mac is quite a lot of work. They had to postpone work on porting the game to get it ready for release, and since then they've been trying to resolve the major issues preventing current players from playing.

tl;dr - they have indicated they want to make a Mac version, no date has been given for when it might become available.
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Xelios Nov 15, 2012 @ 2:54am 
The people that make this game aren't like UBISOFT, Activision, or any other big companies.. It's like less than 10 people. We're lucky to even have it on PC really haha.
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EXCESSIVE Nov 15, 2012 @ 3:20am 
Hmm i'm not sure if this game would run well on a MAC, even the latest mac.
FlankRight Nov 15, 2012 @ 12:28pm 
Recent stats show that Apple is now the leading personal computer vendor in the world. So asking about Mac versions of a game is a very valid question now, and the future gaming landscape will certainly change as Apple products gain more weight.

It's important to note that Apple is in the lead for personal computing devices... only if you include tablets. Certainly for gaming that is valid as the gaming app market is currently evolving in ways never seen before. In some cases, these apps are faithful ports of existing PC games although with different interfaces.

As someone who daily uses both Windows and OSX PCs, I have to say that there is still a sizable performance gap with games on a Mac. It is getting better though with every iteration of the Mac. At this point it's down to just the built in video cards and OS graphic code (compared to DirectX) holding Macs back.

I'm just addressing the Mac hate from people who don't know the facts. I do agree though that Macs at present would not run this game well.
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truekruse Nov 15, 2012 @ 2:41pm 
It is as simple as this, mac machine are powerful and for people who don't like doing a whole lot of anything very easy to use. However even with apple growing as a computer vendor they still have failed to pick up any gaming aspects where as microsoft has released a console, they produce games and own development teams you have nintendo they don't make computers but they have everything they need for video games. If you want to know why Macs don't have video games it's because your assumed Mac user has no use for them as well as Apple refuses to support that type of software development. They don't deserve to have any games on their computers unless their going to make it easier to help out the people interested in doing it for them.
enhaxed Nov 15, 2012 @ 4:16pm 
I freely admit to knowing very little about modern macs but by osmosis have picked up that there are some reasonable mac emulators of windows XP. Likely the performance would be terrible but if your mac was sufficiently over-spec it might just work...maybe.
Fallwor Nov 16, 2012 @ 7:34am 
Thanks for all the lovely comments. Firstly, It's not my intention to start 'another' war of mac vs pc. people have preferences to either one and that's fine by me.
@Volcano: Thanks for pointing that out. I'm looking forward.
@Cornflakes. Thanks for your comment. I was unaware of that anouncement.
@Excessive: I'm not sure if you know anything about macs.
@Flankright: Thanks for your input. Lets not forget where DirectX comes from. People would do better working with an open platform like OpenGL, like so many games have.
@Cannabba: not entirely true. Mac works great out of the box, but has at least as much customalisation possibilities as windows. And Mac has a fair amount of games.
@enhaxed: I'm not really in favor of emulating windows on my mac, it feels ... wrong. but if it'll take that to play the game, I might consider it.
PillzHere!! Nov 16, 2012 @ 10:08am 
Originally posted by FlankRight:
Recent stats show that Apple is now the leading personal computer vendor in the world. So asking about Mac versions of a game is a very valid question now, and the future gaming landscape will certainly change as Apple products gain more weight.

It's important to note that Apple is in the lead for personal computing devices... only if you include tablets. Certainly for gaming that is valid as the gaming app market is currently evolving in ways never seen before. In some cases, these apps are faithful ports of existing PC games although with different interfaces.

As someone who daily uses both Windows and OSX PCs, I have to say that there is still a sizable performance gap with games on a Mac. It is getting better though with every iteration of the Mac. At this point it's down to just the built in video cards and OS graphic code (compared to DirectX) holding Macs back.

I'm just addressing the Mac hate from people who don't know the facts. I do agree though that Macs at present would not run this game well.
lol go play on ur crappy mac
Jevuner Nov 16, 2012 @ 12:23pm 
Because Apple shouldn't have money from all "crap" made in the world by other hands...
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Wotsa Nov 16, 2012 @ 2:11pm 
Originally posted by FlankRight:
Recent stats show that Apple is now the leading personal computer vendor in the world. So asking about Mac versions of a game is a very valid question now, and the future gaming landscape will certainly change as Apple products gain more weight.

It's important to note that Apple is in the lead for personal computing devices... only if you include tablets. Certainly for gaming that is valid as the gaming app market is currently evolving in ways never seen before. In some cases, these apps are faithful ports of existing PC games although with different interfaces.

As someone who daily uses both Windows and OSX PCs, I have to say that there is still a sizable performance gap with games on a Mac. It is getting better though with every iteration of the Mac. At this point it's down to just the built in video cards and OS graphic code (compared to DirectX) holding Macs back.

I'm just addressing the Mac hate from people who don't know the facts. I do agree though that Macs at present would not run this game well.


Being a leading computer vendor and being a leading OS vendor are two completely different things. The only thing that makes Mac's different from any other PC is a couple of propriety buttons and the OS, that's it. So when people say, "I want a Mac version!" they are really asking for a version that runs in the OSX platform, not on a Mac.

The reason why most games aren't on OSX is because it doesn't offer the industry standard API's and frameworks necesary for most games. Windows is still at about 70.3% of the market share and OSX is only about 9%, 18% if you count iOS. There just isn't a large market for it at the moment.
JacopKane Aug 27, 2013 @ 9:26am 
I checked this topic because Valve's Source engine is running on *Nix systems already.

For the PC users who is making unconstructive responses without technical knowledge here,
Get a life.

You're using the world's worst sloppy, broken and ancient OS on the world yet just polluting around trying to create a troll war.

Edit:
"...You might be able to guess that this is a Linux Ubuntu desktop, running the Unity interface. These screenshots were taken on Dushan and Max’s work machines, respectively, at the same time. They show that not only is Natural Selection 2 now running on Linux, we are even starting to successfully trial actual networked play. In theory, we could have connected Windows players to the same server.

This does not mean we are about to release NS2 on Linux. But we are getting damn close. This is real, we are aiming for true SteamPlay Windows / Linux / Mac support. Max and Dushan are working full time on bringing this dream to fruition, and we can’t wait to share more progress with you over the coming weeks..."

Quote from here:
http://unknownworlds.com/ns2/state-of-development-june-2013/
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Cim Aug 27, 2013 @ 10:12am 
Originally posted by Wotsa:
The reason why most games aren't on OSX is because it doesn't offer the industry standard API's and frameworks necesary for most games. Windows is still at about 70.3% of the market share and OSX is only about 9%, 18% if you count iOS. There just isn't a large market for it at the moment.
There's also the problem that since game developers don't focus that much on the Mac, people who buy games (especially "hardcore" games) don't end up buying Macs. Which in turn ends up being why game developers don't focus on the Mac.

That catch 22 is a tough nut to break and I really think it would require Apple to take a more firm stance on OSX as a true gaming platform to do any real change.

Then there's of course the whole "problem" of being able to easily install Windows on Macs... not exactly something that's encouraging for developers to spend all that time making and optimizing Mac versions.
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