Fetstryk Feb 3, 2013 @ 8:10am
Cheaters and cheats
I love this game but now and then I encounter players that appear to do things they should not be able to do. Since I normally do not play FPS games online because cheating is so rampant I will probably stop playing NS2 too. However before I do this I just want to know if these cheats works under steam and if they do, if it is possible for the NS2 team to stop them? (links removed)

Last edited by Fetstryk; Feb 3, 2013 @ 11:02am
Showing 1-15 of 52 comments
< >
Xenmasterqwerty Feb 3, 2013 @ 9:07am 
Don't post links to cheats. If anything, forward it directly to the devs. I've played a fair bit of NS2 now and I don't believe I've seen any obvious cheaters. Of course, I'm sure there are people cheating on it, but it's probably a lot less rampant than on more popular FPS games. Don't forget that people have been playing NS since it was a mod. It's a very competitive game and some players really are that good.
Fetstryk Feb 3, 2013 @ 11:09am 
Well, I've also played since NS1 came out and yes I know there are players that just are that good. I have no problem with them. I do however have problems with people doing the nearly impossible over and over and over again.
Vitdom Feb 4, 2013 @ 9:45am 
If you have found a cheat, forward it directly to the developers via email so that they can send it off to Valve to add it to the VAC-definitions database.

Personally I don't think I have ever seen a cheater in NS2, though. :/
Reyn Feb 4, 2013 @ 1:33pm 
I've never seen a cheater. Because of the small player base you are just significantly more likely to come into contact with one of the best players in the game.
OuchOfDeath Feb 4, 2013 @ 2:39pm 
I may have encountered a wallhacker several days ago. Several people complained about the guy walking around a corner and shooting a skulk with no prior knowledge. I got shot down a couple of times the same way. It's not anything I've eve seen before. Walking up silently to a marine base without being seen(yes I'm including scans and obs) can't possibly trigger someone to walk around a corner looking directly at you and shooting you down.

I'd also like to emphasize what Reyn has said though. People are VERY good at this game. Most of the people that may seem like they're aimbotting are actually just incredibly good shots, and it's both really challenging and sometimes frustrating playing with players like these. Though I'd again like to point out that even these top players never saw around corners the way this one guy did.
Kano Feb 4, 2013 @ 4:59pm 
lol there are no cheats 4 this game
dextronaut Feb 4, 2013 @ 8:24pm 
Now, I dont think Ive come across anybody obviously cheating. Maybe once when this kid had an extremely crazy k/d, but even then. I havent noticed anything too bad. THOUGH, I dont appreciate so many people saying the players are just THAT good without any proof, since we dont have 1st person spectator mode how do you even know that they are THAT good? because them or other plays simply state so? if i had an aimbot and said Ive been around since ns1 mod, people would just assume im crazy good? haha just my opinion. but then again I dont think cheating is much of a problem in this game, or atleast I hope not. They DO need first person spectator mode though, thatd solve the problem for the most part.
100% Recycled Awesome Feb 5, 2013 @ 1:24am 
Originally posted by Haust:
I've said it a couple of times, but I've seen two - three that were certainly hacking. It's a small amount. Nothing too worrisome. But they exist.

It's getting worse.

Came from two games with obvious aimbotting shotties. They were extremely twitchy and never missed. I spected one guy for about 30 minutes and he always knew where enemies were at all times opposed to his teammates. One really blatant instance where was a camo skulk was sneaking up on his team mate, he was looking the opposite direction, and once the skulk attacked, he instantly turned around for a perfect shot. An entire area he wasn't even looking at and he placed a perfect shot.

First guy went something like 45-3. Second guy went 56-4. Rest of the players were tops 3-1, mostly 2-1 with aliens having really bad KD ratios on account of the aimbotting. Neither of them even tried to hide it.

The first guy was really bad. When I spected him, he'd always empty his shotgun clip into structures only when there wasn't any aliens around, even if it was a hive where normally you wouldn't know where everything is. But when he's in an area with aliens, even just 1, he used melee.

Neither of them appear on your current server player list. So you can't report them.

Granted, that was just two players out of a dozen games worth of players, but when I first picked the game up, hacking, if any, wasn't noticable. Now some players are just blatantly doing it.

Valve and the Devs need to do something about this.
Last edited by 100% Recycled Awesome; Feb 5, 2013 @ 1:35am
Brobama Feb 5, 2013 @ 2:58am 
The devs simply don't care about hackers as far as I can tell. I've never seen a news post or even a tweet about it.

Rather disappointing since in a game with a community this small you need to avoid alienating players.
Vitdom Feb 5, 2013 @ 4:22pm 
Originally posted by 100% Recycled Awesome:
Neither of them appear on your current server player list. So you can't report them.
Anyone playing on a server must have gone through game ownership status Steam-UWE Authentication. This will register their SteamID on the server. If it was not registered onto the server, then it's either a serious bug or a maliciously cracked gameserver. You should contact the developers immediately at max@unknownworlds.com

To list all authenticated SteamIDs currently playing on a server, open the console(key is in the options) and type while you are connected to the server:
sv_status
These SteamIDs are displayed in numerical form, you can convert them to standardized Steam formats using tools online. The SteamIDs can then be used to fetch the link to the User's Steam Community profile, if the User has registered a Community profile.

Relying on Steam Overlay's player finder isn't good because it is known to only identify some Steam Community profiles, and not the SteamIDs themselves.
Last edited by Vitdom; Feb 5, 2013 @ 4:28pm
100% Recycled Awesome Feb 5, 2013 @ 9:34pm 
Originally posted by Vitdom:
Originally posted by 100% Recycled Awesome:
Neither of them appear on your current server player list. So you can't report them.
Anyone playing on a server must have gone through game ownership status Steam-UWE Authentication. This will register their SteamID on the server. If it was not registered onto the server, then it's either a serious bug or a maliciously cracked gameserver. You should contact the developers immediately at max@unknownworlds.com

Could be a bug. I didn't have this problem in TF2 aside from the people who have the hack that changes their name every 5 seconds. Will try the SV_status next time. Thanks.

There also seems to be a damage modifier hack out there. One fade was killing marines with 1 hit from full level 3 armor and health when every other fade was doing the regular expected damage. And like others, he did not appear in the server list in the overlay. No one I didn't suspect to be hacking was missing from the current server list, which suggests to me there is something really fishy going on. Everyone but the suspected hacker is in your current server list? Sketch.

Relying on Steam Overlay's player finder isn't good because it is known to only identify some Steam Community profiles, and not the SteamIDs themselves.

That seems like a serious flaw when it's the recommended way of reporting incidents.
lwf Feb 6, 2013 @ 3:16am 
Neither res or dmg hacks should be possible. The server may have been modded, res for kills could explain marines spending personal res with few RTs.
JKflipflop Feb 6, 2013 @ 9:52am 
I played a game yesterday where a guy on our marine team was obviously hacking. He was in an exo towards the end of the game and he was quite obviously tracking enemies through the walls and insta-snapping at weird angles as the aimbot picked the next target.
Zippo Feb 6, 2013 @ 10:16am 
I've come across 1 hacker so far that I'm 100% sure off. He played Marine and I played Alien, he would dash into rooms and clean out EVERYONE, even hiding skulks in the ceilings, sometimes 4-5 at a time just one shotting everyone instantly. Every time you hid from him, he would run up to you aiming straight at you and bam, dead.
By the end of the game he had ~90 kills and 2 deaths.
100% Recycled Awesome Feb 6, 2013 @ 7:54pm 
Originally posted by lwf:
Neither res or dmg hacks should be possible. The server may have been modded, res for kills could explain marines spending personal res with few RTs.

Just because we think it shouldn't be possible doesn't mean it isn't. Furthermore there is a bug with the game that lets people carry over their res from one game to another. Several people reported being able to get an Onos within a few minutes of the game starting because of this bug.

And it doesn't make sense how one player with the same class does 1 hit kills consistently through the entire game when everyone else on his team, including those in the same class aren't on full health players unless that person is using a damage modifier hack. Furthermore, according to NS1 players, damage hacks did exist.

Res for kills is possible, but that would seem to suggest a malciously modified server to give only marines res for kills.

I do avoid the yellow listed servers for that reason. Is there a way that modded servers can run mods and not display that they are modded?
Last edited by 100% Recycled Awesome; Feb 6, 2013 @ 7:56pm
Showing 1-15 of 52 comments
< >
Per page: 15 30 50
Date Posted: Feb 3, 2013 @ 8:10am
Posts: 52