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S-Li 2013年11月7日 10時17分
Help with choosing CPU for GTX 650 / Помогите выбрать CPU для GTX 650
What about Intel Pentium G3420 + Asus GeForce GTX 650 (1280x1024)???
Or buy better CPU???
For optimal performance within budget!


Как насчет Intel Pentium G3420 + Asus GeForce GTX 650 (1280x1024)???
Или купите лучше процессор??
Для оптимальной производительности в пределах бюджета!
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100% Recycled Awesome 2013年11月7日 11時21分 
GPU not that important.

Game is CPU bound.

G3420 won't give you decent performance. Pentium line is a budget base, low level gaming, more business mundane processor.

GTX 650 is a budget card. I wouldn't drop below that if you're going to play other games.

Do you already have a LGA 11150 motherboard? If you're trying to game on a budget, you have to go AMD.
S-Li 2013年11月7日 12時04分 
Ahhhh...
CPU is the main!

No! I don't have a LGA 11150 motherboard.
So the AMD A10-6800K or Intel Core i3-4330 + GTX 650!))
S-Li 2013年11月7日 12時05分 
Thank you!
LucK_NoT_SkiLL 2013年11月8日 10時56分 
100% Recycled Awesome の投稿を引用:
GPU not that important.

Game is CPU bound.
This game uses up to 1,995MB of my GPU memory :)
100% Recycled Awesome 2013年11月8日 11時11分 
LucK_NoT_SkiLL の投稿を引用:
100% Recycled Awesome の投稿を引用:
GPU not that important.

Game is CPU bound.
This game uses up to 1,995MB of my GPU memory :)

So? I got a video card with nearly 4 times the passmark score of my old one and saw 3 more FPS. The GTX 560 is old (I have the factory OC Asus one too which is closer to the 560Ti rather than the stock 560), but no slouch and it bagged a pathetic 3 more FPS over a 9800GTX+

Went from a E7500 Core 2 Dual to an i5 4670k and got an additional 130 FPS. To me, that's a solid case that the game is extremely CPU bound and that GPU plays a relatively minor role.

I still rarely ever see R_Stats1 report more than 1 MS waiting for GPU.
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LucK_NoT_SkiLL 2013年11月8日 11時15分 
I'm not denying that this game is CPU intensive, but out of all of my games, including BF3 this one uses up a huge amount of memory. Nothing else tops 1 gig whereas this almost reaches 2!
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100% Recycled Awesome 2013年11月8日 11時24分 
LucK_NoT_SkiLL の投稿を引用:
I'm not denying that this game is CPU intensive, but out of all of my games, including BF3 this one uses up a huge amount of memory. Nothing else tops 1 gig whereas this almost reaches 2!

Most likely due to poor optimization. NS2 creates a problem for budget gamers as most games are GPU bound, thus you have a trade off. Do you get better performance in NS2 and worse in others or worse in NS2 and better in others? Many people can't afford a $200+ processor AND a $250+ GPU on top of everything else on a new build. Something's gotta give.

I personally get around this by reusing GPUs so I can spread the cost over two computers. But on new budget builds, this is a real problem.
LucK_NoT_SkiLL 2013年11月8日 11時29分 
100% Recycled Awesome の投稿を引用:
But on new budget builds, this is a real problem.
Absolutely. I have a Phenom II 965 Black Edition, it's a 3.4GHz quad and a HD 7850 2GB which is overclocked loads and the game runs really well at my native resolution, I only have problems in 20 player end game battles where I dip to around 42fps which is still playable - hell some people get that in the ready room! I'd condider my PC a fairly budget PC (In terms of PC gaming and the components out there)
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S-Li 2013年11月8日 11時53分 
Gentlemen! Very grateful for your time!

An interesting detail! I have an OLDdddd PC!!!)

And AMD Athlon x2 245 2,9 GHz
2Gb (2x1Gb DDR2 800)
Gefortse GT 240 (512Gb-GDDR5-128bit)
WD Caviar Blue WD2500AAJS 250Gb
Windows 8.1 32bit

Sorry for details!)) An hour ago, chopped into this game!
1024x768 mid/low/on/on and etc. Almost no lag!!!)

Maybe things are not so bad with Intel Pentium G3420 + Asus GeForce GTX 650! Hmmm...
Maybe 1280x1024 on Maxxx!
LucK_NoT_SkiLL 2013年11月8日 12時07分 
I find that turning shadows on can drop the framerate down by up to 25 fps instantly!
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S-Li 2013年11月8日 12時25分 
Very grateful for the advice!!!)

To be honest, I want to wait for 2014! New AMD's CPU (AMD Kaveri) on FM2+. Or Intel's new 5th gen. It would be great!
I think it would be more logical.

I'm a fan of minimalism! 8) Integrated GPU! Minimum noise, energy. Max FPS! Caring for the environment!)) Umm....
S-Li 2013年11月8日 12時27分 
Grateful for the comments!!!
Apocalypse 2013年11月9日 2時42分 
That 650 is not a good card, it is cheap, sure, but it still does not offer a good price for its performance. Similar for your CPU. Intels become competetive once you hit i5s and even than a FX-8350 may still be a better choice.

Depending on your budget a A10-6800k can be a great and cheap gaming system. If you budget allows to step a little up to AMDs CPUs paired a 7790 / 260x or one of those super nice 280x.

Here a $450 example build from teksyndicate: https://teksyndicate.com/videos/build-450-gaming-pc-kill-your-console-build-one

The whole kill your console series is quite nice, but keep in mind that we have currently a big price drops for GPUs thanks to the new amd cards and so not all informations on GPU prices are current in the video series.
S-Li 2013年11月9日 8時01分 
Apocalypse の投稿を引用:
Depending on your budget a A10-6800k can be a great and cheap gaming system. If you budget allows to step a little up to AMDs CPUs paired a 7790 / 260x or one of those super nice 280x.

Thanks for your advice!
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Apocalypse 2013年11月9日 9時21分 
And when I said step up I mean from an APU to a dedicated CPU like the very good FX-8350.
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