Natural Selection 2

Natural Selection 2

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Eyeball Jan 7, 2014 @ 2:14am
How many hrs make one a veteran in general?
I joined a training room to introduce this game to my friend who is interested a couple days ago. I said i've devoted 50+ hrs into this game(at that moment. now i have 70+) my friend and the other players in that room regarded me as a veteran. i know campare to them im maybe a veteran but i think im still pretty green compare to most of the players out there. what do u think? usaully when u see a vet, how many hrs do u think this guy have already devoted to this game?
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LucK_ Jan 7, 2014 @ 2:28am 
I always think of a vetaran as being someone with 1,000+ hours, has played the game since alpha and has all the badges :)
Ghoul  [developer] Jan 7, 2014 @ 2:33am 
Don't want to sound rought but most ppl i count as vets have at least 1k hours of playtime.

This is due to two things:

First the game was released 1,5 years ago, secoundly since then it change alot so vets had to learn thing over and over again.

Also ns2 is pretty deep in gameplay from a tactical view. You will start to notice some things not before you played hundreds of hours.

But you' are going ways with your first 100 hours and i would problembly count you allready as more advanced players.

After all i wouldn't say someone is a vet after x hours of playtime,imho it's more after when you started playing ns2.

Vets are for me all ppl playing somehow constanly since the beta or started at least around the Gorgeous update.

But thats just my opinion, also our community is rather small so most old community members know each other and most "vets" can be found in the uwe forums.

I would make also a clear cut between vets and competitive players.

Most vets are still mid skilled imho and just play for fun. To be competitive you don't necessarily have to spent 1k+ with ns2. Just play alot ensl gathers and find a team you'll improve you're skills pretty fast.

And those vets are always happy to share their knowlegde.

Edit: Just a sidenote:
Alot vets tend to see everyone with less than 100 hours playtime as rookie :D
Last edited by Ghoul; Jan 7, 2014 @ 2:41am
Eyeball Jan 7, 2014 @ 2:59am 
haha that's what im thinking about. i'd say i only know the basics rather than pretending to be a boss and end up getting pub stomped. there are so many verieties in this game which is why i like it. i still have the feeling that im naked on the battlefield most of the time :P
Irresolute Jan 7, 2014 @ 3:08am 
About 400 hours is enough to master everything, skill performance however depends on how much you have recently played.
Gunter Jan 7, 2014 @ 3:39am 
+Kez+ Jan 7, 2014 @ 4:08am 
I have about 135 and i am still learning how to be a good com or how to be good fade so yea i would think 3 to 400 hours should be good enough.
R1B$ Jan 7, 2014 @ 4:56am 
I'd say you know when you're a vet.

Time played doesn't really matter, as a lot of that time could be spent playing an utterly different game build, there are some people who have played a really long time who still kinda suck. They know how to play the meta, but if you can't kill you can't obtain map control.

At 200 hours I still considered myself pretty bad, bought a new rig, put some extra hours and I have been playing decent game even with relatively strong players. Some of the fixes UWE have done to skulkboxes have really helped curve the BS.

I don't consider myself particularly great at late-game commanding, or particularly good with Lerks or Fades, but I stick with what I'm good at, which is marines/skulk/carefulonos.
Warforce17 Jan 7, 2014 @ 5:02am 
I consider myself a veteran since:
* I have put more than 500 hours into the game
* I have (re)learned the movement of all lifeforms and have a idea of how to play them
* I am able to analyze people mistakes and am able to give them advice
* I have an overall deeper understanding of the game

Being a veteran does however not rqual doing good every game. I sometimes fail really hard and do mistakes which are unnecessary and I know better. :)
Last edited by Warforce17; Jan 7, 2014 @ 5:02am
If I prepurchaed, i'd most likely be a vet
Hooter Jan 7, 2014 @ 3:09pm 
Player skill is sort of difficult to quantify in this game. Mostly because this is such a teamwork focused game. Even more so then other team based games like L4D2 and Team Fortress 2. A really good player can still completely dominate a map in TF2 or L4D2. A really good player in NS2 can really, really distract the other team for a while. I would define player skill in NS2 more in terms of how well they communicate with others and how well they work with their team. In other words their maturity strategic awareness. M1 is important, but a good player can still lose the game if he's not cooperating.
Jackson Jan 7, 2014 @ 3:33pm 

1-5h Greenie
<100h rookie
100-200h average player
300-500h advanced player
500+ Veteran
1000+ Real badass you can trust ! Probably a competitive player (or a nerd).

But still, after that I agree with Ghoul, and this is just some sort of estimation, as skill does not count in what I said. I know guys with 700+h that are very good (cuz 2000h of CSS, see?) and guys with 1200+ who mainly wandered in ♥♥♥♥♥♥ pub games, stomping rookies to seem tough, and that are not worth comp' guys at all.
JSwizzy Jan 8, 2014 @ 12:46am 
I'd say you need at least 100 hours not to be considered a rookie. Vets are probably pushing 500+

Also if you're not pressing "C" every 5 secs your a rookie no matter how many hours you have.
Last edited by JSwizzy; Jan 8, 2014 @ 5:40am
cheeseburger Jan 8, 2014 @ 11:57am 
400+, and this is only if you're also keen to learning and skilled.
Last edited by cheeseburger; Jan 8, 2014 @ 11:57am
Soul Rider Jan 9, 2014 @ 2:14pm 
I have over 1.5k hrs, I am a vet of the game, but I have absolutely no skill whatsoever. I don't play this trying to get better, I just play it for fun, and hence I could probably play another 1.5k hours, and still only finish half-way up a rookie server. :D

I understand how the game works, and love the technical side of it, but can't shoot for toffee..
Jackson Jan 9, 2014 @ 2:31pm 
Originally posted by SoulRider:
I understand how the game works, and love the technical side of it, but can't shoot for toffee..

Combat mode, gogogo !! :D
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