Melursus Jan 4 @ 1:10pm
Big lag problems with a decent PC.
Hi everyone,

I recently bought the game, but i have a really big problem : I try to run it on a laptop, with an intel core i5-3210M 2.50 GHz and a radeon HD 8750M, all with 4GB RAM, so even better than the recomended configuration.

The problem is that i can't play decently, with just the resolution of my PC (1366*768) and without options, i have 10 FPS. I need to be in 800*600 to have 25...

I can run a lot of recent games decently (dota 2, fluid with every options for example), so i think there is a problem, but with what ? I saw that the game is running in 32 bit, and my CPU and OS (win 8) are 64, is that a problem ?

When i see people who can run it with a intel HD chipset, i'm a little upset ^^

Thanks for your attention!
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100% Recycled Awesome Jan 4 @ 2:01pm 
Your clock speed is under the recommended specs. Also mobile processors gimp on performance to save battery life.
Melursus Jan 4 @ 2:21pm 
But how a PC with far lower capacity can run it better than mine ? My battery mode isn't in economy mode. Maybe the problem is that i have a chipset and a graphic card, and for this game the graphic card is not detected or something like that...
And big games like Tomb Raider run good too. Maybe it is an installation problem.
Apocalypse Jan 4 @ 2:48pm 
You videocard is weaker than even some of the more recent integrated GPUs from AMD ;-)
Try 800x480, should work ok for you.
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Melursus Jan 4 @ 3:10pm 
http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-HD-8750M.87147.0.html

heeey don't say my GPU is weak ^^, the problem is just with NS 2, even intel HD chipset can run the game better than me, but i can run tomb raider and they can't ? I took time to choose this PC, and i'm sure of its capacities. That's really strange :/

yeah 800*480 works at 20 fps without options, but this isn't normal. As you can see even crysis 3 run better in medium...

Is there some patchs i didn't install ? I won't lose hope :)
Poor Tony Krause Jan 4 @ 3:19pm 
Maybe your notebook has 2 GPUs (integrated and dedicated).
If so, your pc is probably running the game with the integrated one. It happens sometimes. Just check in CCC and change the GPU for this application.

Btw, this game has some optimization issues. My pc (desktop) is just beyond the recommended settings but I can't run the game at lowest settings with a decent framerate. Maybe it's UE3, i've always had issues with indie games using UE3.
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Melursus Jan 4 @ 3:22pm 
Yep, my laptop has 2 GPU, one integrated and the graphic card. How can i check in CCC? Thanks.
Poor Tony Krause Jan 4 @ 3:35pm 
well, i did this a few months ago but i don't remember precisely what to do.
You have to right-click on CCC's tray icon, or maybe open it, and find something regarding "high performance graphic processor" and "low performance processor".
Or maybe under power saving in the control panel.

It's a window where you can browse and select each program you have installed and set which GPU your pc has to use to run them.

I'd like to give you more detailed information but I really can't remember, sorry :)



EDIT:apparently it's called CCC Switchable Graphics
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Apocalypse Jan 4 @ 3:36pm 
But your GPU is weak ;-)

From your own link:
"It is based on the Mars chip (28nm GCN architecture) with 384 shader cores, 24 TMUs, and 8 ROPs. The core is clocked at 620 - 775 MHz (or up to 670 - 825 MHz with Boost) and can access DDR3 or GDDR5 VRAM (1000 MHz) depending on the model variant."

Compare this to a recent AMD APU like an A10-6800k:
Radeon HD 8670D
Shader cores: 384
Base frequency (MHz): 844

That is even a dual GPU setup of your card with some integrated AMD GPU.
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=Radeon+HD+8450G+%2B+8750M+Dual&id=2667

And here the integrated GPU of 7660G of my A8-4600M notebook, a $400 notebook, does not get cheaper than that: http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=Radeon+HD+7660G

Here another comparision, $110 desktop budget gpu and your gpu again:
http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-HD-8750M-vs-Radeon-HD-7790

You GPU is literally just hitting the minimum reqs.
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100% Recycled Awesome Jan 4 @ 5:32pm 
Originally posted by Apocalypse:
But your GPU is weak ;-)

Although if you run the game at low graphical settings, it shouldn't make a differences. Switching to the 640M equvilant should net him okay performance. But his CPU is his real bottleneck.
Melursus Jan 4 @ 5:33pm 
Okay Apocalypse, but with the price i paid and the weight of my PC i still think it's great. But thanks for opening my eyes on this point.

Anyway, the problem evolved now. I'm in state of red alert.

I tried to uninstall the integrated one (intel hd 4000) to check if the game were working with just the card amd. but there was a big problem. Now the 2 Cards are not identified by my PC after reboot, but worse, the drivers from intel and amd website aren't working ! now when i start a game it's all white flashy and videos on internet are lagging. Dayum i hope i didn't ruined my PC, is there a solution ??
Pixel Lover Jan 4 @ 5:44pm 
i get 14 fps and im running everything in lowest... and i have a dual core 3.4 ghz amd processor and a radeon 7660 cgraphics card and 12 gb ram much sadness oh well i got it for 2 bucks so whatever
Angry Neck Beard Jan 4 @ 6:16pm 
lol that pc isnt as great as you think, look up the drivers by model. just get back to functioning again, not much more you can do there
Apocalypse Jan 4 @ 6:18pm 
Originally posted by 100% Recycled Awesome:
Originally posted by Apocalypse:
But your GPU is weak ;-)

Although if you run the game at low graphical settings, it shouldn't make a differences. Switching to the 640M equvilant should net him okay performance. But his CPU is his real bottleneck.

No the CPU should not really bottleneck right now, as I have mentioned I have a similar weak GPU on my notebook, and even on 800x480 and minimal settings I am still waiting for the GPU. That 4600M CPU should be even slower than his i5-3210M.
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i5-3210M-vs-AMD-A10-4600M

For your driver problems, they to remove and reinstall them. And if they keep not working, try the drivers from your notebook manufacture.
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Postman Pat Jan 4 @ 10:15pm 
OP, I'm sorry but the PC, a laptop, is not that great. The price and the weight of the thing don't mean ♥♥♥♥. The fact that you have a laptop already hinders your ability to run a high spec game decently. Laptop hardware is much weaker than desktop, and is built for power efficiency. Your CPU is definitely bottlenecking with that clock speed, and you have a low amount of RAM as well. As others have said, you should make sure you're running the dedicated GPU and not the integrated one. Quite frankly, I'm not too surprised that you are getting that kind of performance from this laptop. Depending on settings, this game can even stress some decent desktops. It also isn't very well optimized either, but it's far better than it used to be.

I hate to be a buzzkill, there may be some tweaking you can do to bring up the performance, but don't expect too much.
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Swarley Jan 4 @ 10:47pm 
why do you have 12 gb ram with a dual core....... lmfao
Originally posted by Pixel Lover:
i get 14 fps and im running everything in lowest... and i have a dual core 3.4 ghz amd processor and a radeon 7660 cgraphics card and 12 gb ram much sadness oh well i got it for 2 bucks so whatever
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