Hwanwok May 16 @ 8:24pm
Problem with the game?
this game had like 700 and 800 players..

the precach needs alittle fixing(Thats the problem losing the gamers in this game)

Bad players just plagueing this game

but this is all in my opinion the updates are really boring each patch content each passing patch content of the game and its making me bored and not recommend this game cuz if you would inporve the game it will get more players in this game

so sad those terrible things are killing the game and 2 things:
1) Bad Players everywhere
2) Precaching is taking long

just so sad to watch a great game die...
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Cat May 16 @ 8:50pm 
"Just so sad watch a great game die..."

Present >> 10 years later >. keep watching this game die
Guys we have COD Future Warfare and NS3 + HL3
LOL
Hwanwok May 16 @ 8:53pm 
lol
100% Recycled Awesome May 17 @ 1:56am 
Originally posted by {SC} Hwanwok:
this game had like 700 and 800 players..

the precach needs alittle fixing(Thats the problem losing the gamers in this game)

Bad players just plagueing this game

but this is all in my opinion the updates are really boring each patch content each passing patch content of the game and its making me bored and not recommend this game cuz if you would inporve the game it will get more players in this game

so sad those terrible things are killing the game and 2 things:
1) Bad Players everywhere
2) Precaching is taking long

just so sad to watch a great game die...

The fundamental problem with this game is that most shooters do not require higher cognitive functions. Many players view the game as just another FPS and do poorly at it because they aren't able to view it as a RTS at the same time. You can be a total awesome shot and still lose game after game after game because you're simply outplayed at the strategic level. Games like NS2 require higher cognitive functions. Many games I've seen could have been won if a team had suspended the "fight first enemy I see" and gone with a flank or pincer move on a key base.

That alone is going to severely limit the game's appeal.

Precach can be fixed by moving the game to a 10k RPM drive or an SSD. My preache takes about 3~10 seconds on a SATA III SSD.

As for bad players...you're not going to find an online game without them.

Could the devs do more to make the game optimize better on lower end systems? ABSOLUTELY, but that alone won't save the game.
flusha=hacker May 17 @ 3:45am 
If you dont like bad players you need to find the right servers for you...there are good servers for every skill level.
LucK_NoT_SkiLL May 17 @ 9:47am 
Pre-chaching is super fast, get a decent PC. I have extra pre-caching on and it loads 10x faster than Battlefield 4. Also I hope that was sarcasm about the updates being boring :/
Cat May 17 @ 7:32pm 
UWE need to working on Match making like DOTA2

that way there is no stack , put on random teams
Hobocop May 17 @ 7:42pm 
You realize that the only reason the matchmaking in DoTA2 works the way it does is because it has a sufficiently large pool of players to pull from?

It isn't going to be the magic bullet to stacking that you seem to think it is. There isn't enough granularity in skill levels across the current player base.

And random teams are just as much of a crapshoot.
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Cat May 17 @ 8:30pm 
we need match making to atttract players back
Hobocop May 17 @ 10:26pm 
And what about the other issues that drove players away?

The game is still extremely complex compared to most other modern shooters, and it will still have performance issues even if you implement your fabled matchmaking that is somehow going to make everyone come back.
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Hoxfort May 18 @ 5:39am 
the complexity of this game isn't the main reason the player retention is so low, don't flatter yourselves. dota 2 is even more complex in every way and doesn't struggle with ns2's problems.
RaZDaZ May 18 @ 12:04pm 
Originally posted by Orphanbeat:
the complexity of this game isn't the main reason the player retention is so low, don't flatter yourselves. dota 2 is even more complex in every way and doesn't struggle with ns2's problems.

MOBAs are also insanely popular right now and are easily one of the newest genres in gaming. Novelty is enough to sell.

Starcraft is even more complex and mechanically demanding than DOTA2 in every way and is significantly less popular.

RTS used to be very popular now they are nearly extinct. Arena FPS used to be really popular but again, they are nearly extinct.
100% Recycled Awesome May 18 @ 12:12pm 
Originally posted by Orphanbeat:
the complexity of this game isn't the main reason the player retention is so low, don't flatter yourselves. dota 2 is even more complex in every way and doesn't struggle with ns2's problems.

DOTA 2/LoL is only complex in that there are so many hero choices.

That pales in comparison to the complexity of stragetic operational coordination of potentially a dozen players across a large map.
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Hoxfort May 18 @ 5:11pm 
@razdaz
i know, i wasn't saying that the more complex a game is, the higher its playercount will be. i was just pointing out that complexity obviously isn't a dealbreaker in terms of mainstream success.

@100% recycled awesome
i'll admit that my moba-experience consists solely of the 4 hours i put into dota 2 since i never got myself to actually get interested in these types of games. still, i felt way more overwhelmed when i started dota for the first time than i did when i got into ns2. i can't really compare the actual complexity of these 2 games but i am convinced that ns2 isn't too complex for an average player (that does at least ok in other fps) to enjoy. i agree that to be able to pull your own weight in ns2, you need to develop a deeper understanding of the game's mechanics than for many other games, but i still don't see as much of an entry barrier in that fact as you apparently do.
Cat May 18 @ 6:37pm 
UWE can marketing NS2 as MOBA map type

the game map still have mid, lane to push for both team
Noran May 18 @ 10:01pm 
Are some of you people running harddrives from 10 years ago or just forgetting to run a defrag, I don't get all the ♥♥♥♥♥ing about precaching times??

I'm running a 7200RPM WD Black Drive with auto defrag once a week, and precaching takes all of MAYBE 15 secound of my time... Wow.
Maybe I should move NS2 to a RAM drive for instantanious loading... I mean what will I do with those 15 seconds! My gosh! My life would be complete!
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