Silvercity 16 Şub @ 8:30pm
How many hours does people need in order to be somewhat 'experience'd'?
I have about 105 hours in the game right now. Still not amazing at it, but better than beginers. When do people start seeing you as a more experienced player?
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ShadowSoulAssassin 16 Şub @ 10:30pm 
Most guys say that anyone under 100h is still a rookie, although I think that's just to show them that this game indeed takes quite some time until you can get used to the mechanics.
Imho the playtime may be an indicator, but what's far more important is what you've learned in this time. I refuse to call somebody with over 100h experienced if he goes for the armory first in a baserush *facepalm*..Simply because he didn't listen or bother to improve his gameplay at all or because he was a marine all the time.
You should have aquired the basic knowledge about the tactics of both teams. Skill is not that important. Sometimes I have my problems with one skulk too. ;)
Silvercity 16 Şub @ 10:46pm 
I see :P
Nali Warcow - Birthday' 17 Şub @ 12:17am 
ShadowSoulAssassin tarafından gönderilen ileti:
Most guys say that anyone under 100h is still a rookie, although I think that's just to show them that this game indeed takes quite some time until you can get used to the mechanics.
Imho the playtime may be an indicator, but what's far more important is what you've learned in this time. I refuse to call somebody with over 100h experienced if he goes for the armory first in a baserush *facepalm*..Simply because he didn't listen or bother to improve his gameplay at all or because he was a marine all the time.
You should have aquired the basic knowledge about the tactics of both teams. Skill is not that important. Sometimes I have my problems with one skulk too. ;)
the thing is..

most people who are still a rookie after 10 hours, really do not contribute, nor are willing to learn.

I admit, its a hard game.. but is it that hard to play the FPS aspect? The FPS aspect.. is just like any other FPS game be it BF, COD, Quake, Unreal, or whatever other game for marines. The only thing tha makes a difference is that you have aliens who rely on melee, but that has been done before in plenty of games too.

Most people who have played FPS before are out of the green name within 10 hours...

The only reason people stay green is when they just do not wanna learn. and go comm etc.

Same goes for aliens:

ALiens play differently, rely on ambushes etc.

Now, I dont mind if a newbie just dies there, as movement is alot different too, but most people inmediatly learn from it.

I rarely see anyone constantly moving streight forward for instance as alien. And if they do, they generally are dead within half a sec.


This game does not require 'much' time to learn.. at least the FPS part.

You need to kinow three things for marines.:

Movement(Speaks for it self)
Aim (Speaks for it self)
Map (Vents etc)

For aliens:

Ambush (Speaks for it self, try to backstab mariens etc)
Map
Various skills (Paracite, Bile, Blink etc)

Thats all.


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Eyeball 17 Şub @ 1:22am 
i remember i've asked the same thing when i was a rookie. here's the post link. hope it helps u.
http://steamcommunity.com/app/4920/discussions/0/630800447081804126/
100% Recycled Awesome 17 Şub @ 1:28pm 
CSHD.Sandshark tarafından gönderilen ileti:
I have about 105 hours in the game right now. Still now amazing at it, but better than beginers. When do people start seeing you as a more experienced player?

Hours alone don't tell us that much. I picked up the strategy within 5 hours, but then again, I've played RTS games for over a decade and I've read The Art of War twice. I see players with 500 hours focusing on one area for half a game and ignoring game winning flanking manuvers.

Part of what I believe, seperates the rookies from the veterans is the capacity to see the game as more than just a shooting/biting game. You can be an awesome fade, but if you cannot see the weaknesses in a Marine defense, you won't help your team win. A highly skilled stragegtic gorge can be the absolute key player on an Alien team. That gorge may also get no kills an entire game. One game on Docking aliens were getting rolled. A player managed to get a sneaky tunnel to landing pad and a 6 gorge bile rush happened. The Aliens were close to losing and then turned the game around by destroying the main Marine base. They reduced them down to no arms lab, no protoype and no advanced armory. Armor and weapons level 0 with shotguns was their best weapon.

K:D doesn't matter if you lose the game. I went 10:1 in a game we lost badly because my Marine team didn't understand the notion of hitting the enemy where they are weakest.

IMO, it's easier to train someone to shoot/bite well than it is to train them to do critical battlefield analysis on the fly.

The ability to transcend the simple bite/shoot IMO is seperates a rookie from a vet. That said, extremely good tactical players do make a huge difference. Some of them cannot plan even the most basic strategy plan, but they are exceedingly good at killing things.
Crouchasaurs 17 Şub @ 2:09pm 
most pub players peak around 250 hrs then flatline in skill / understanding more or less. Playing in a group or clan 6v6 teaches you much faster and imo much more than pub play could.
RaZDaZ 17 Şub @ 2:50pm 
Mechanically, 100 hours.
Strategically, 500 hours.

From my PoV anyway.
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OuchOfDeath 17 Şub @ 2:54pm 
RaZDaZ tarafından gönderilen ileti:
Mechanically, 100 hours.
Strategically, 500 hours.

From my PoV anyway.
I'd roughly agree with this. There's a lot of nuanced strategy (when to make pushes and how is big and not self-evident at all) that you do not pick up on at all until you begin to play high-level games, and you of course require good mechanics for that.

I think Fade and Lerk take longer than other mechanics to pick up on though, so there's a delay where you're starting to get good at the game but are still horrible with those two that exists.
Big_Boss88 17 Şub @ 4:33pm 
-Un-Real- tarafından gönderilen ileti:
This is such a stupid question.
For anyone to give an accurate reply to your question you have to write the following.
Your..
Disability (metal and/or physical if you have any)
Any allergies that you may have.
If you are colour blind in any way.
Your weight and height.
Your age and gender...
Your reaction time tested manually and ect.
At what age you started to walk on your two feet when you were a baby. (maybe for some people a teenager)
Some people will pick this game up very quickly other will not. Dumb ♥♥♥ questions like this bring dumb asses to the game. So please lets be smart not dumb.
Sorry if i made you think and/or realise that you may be a dumbass. I only respect smart people though. Best of luck trying to figure out if you are somewhat experienced and i hope i helped!

4Real

Wow...this is such a stupid reply. People like you, who act like bunch of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥s make NS2 community bad. Guess some people don't know how to be polite and instead post pointless crap. Next time just don't bother replying.
ThunderCougarFalconBird 17 Şub @ 5:32pm 
Big Boss tarafından gönderilen ileti:
-Un-Real- tarafından gönderilen ileti:
This is such a stupid question.
For anyone to give an accurate reply to your question you have to write the following.
Your..
Disability (metal and/or physical if you have any)
Any allergies that you may have.
If you are colour blind in any way.
Your weight and height.
Your age and gender...
Your reaction time tested manually and ect.
At what age you started to walk on your two feet when you were a baby. (maybe for some people a teenager)
Some people will pick this game up very quickly other will not. Dumb ♥♥♥ questions like this bring dumb asses to the game. So please lets be smart not dumb.
Sorry if i made you think and/or realise that you may be a dumbass. I only respect smart people though. Best of luck trying to figure out if you are somewhat experienced and i hope i helped!

4Real

Wow...this is such a stupid reply. People like you, who act like bunch of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥s make NS2 community bad. Guess some people don't know how to be polite and instead post pointless crap. Next time just don't bother replying.

I was just going to troll you, but I'm in a good mood right now, and I feel that if I don't break it down for you, that you will not actually learn anything. So here it goes.

This question is entirely stupid. Having hours doesn't make you a vet. UnReal is being sarcastic and trying to be funny (I lol'ed), and is trying to make a point by saying there are more factors involved than raw playtime. However you seem to not understand this concept.

Instead, it is people like YOU who make the community bad. No, my windows don't need to be licked, thanks for trying.


edit: as for the OP, don't worry about hours, K/D, or whatever, just play the game, use your map, respond to the commander's (or person calling shots), and focus on improving yourself. I'm sure you are a good player, and will be a pro in no time.

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Angelo 17 Şub @ 6:12pm 
Well there's always the 10,000 hour rule :D

What I heard over the years from several FPS pro-gamers (professional as in participate at the top level competitively and in some cases for money) is that around 300 hours are required in order to fully understand a game. Mind you though this number is for "ordinary" FPS games, since NS2 is a little more complex than your average shooter might be more for this game.

I'm still learning new things 800+ hours in, then again I'm not a pro-gamer and I always was kind of a slow fella ;D
Jackson | CAN MERC 20 Şub @ 5:25pm 
Oh, cool, another thread like this. Well, answers are all above. If you still want to get more "in-depths', check out tutorial on google and youtube.
Hominid 20 Şub @ 8:38pm 
I always thought that about 500-750 hours to become reasonably adept.
[#OMEGA] - K2@Nosgoth giveaway 20 Şub @ 11:41pm 
They need as many hours as they need to stop running around like mindless chickens. You are not are rookie any more as long you're an asset to the team, not a hinderance.

And that point can be early, or come never for some people.
RaZDaZ 21 Şub @ 2:01pm 
I have almost 900 hours played and I'm still nowhere near the level of a high-end competitive player. I can maybe tackle with division 2-3 on a really good day but going against the snails or Titus is just a roflstomp and thats strictly speaking about individual skill which is only the tip of the iceberg.

Point is is that while there are some ranges that can be applicable, individual differences are what play the largest role. I quickly got comfortable with the game due to my years of competitive experience with AvP2 but someone who isn't adjusted to complex strategy, teamwork and implicit design will take longer to learn.
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