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LimePuff 1月24日 10時12分
IS VAC WORKING?
Almost every rookie server got some top player they use shoot gun and never miss. 1 shoots a skulk 2 shoots a gorgoe 2 shoots a lerk 2 shoots and 2 shoots a FADE.
And there are some guy once u move close to him u just die in a flash. I say he is hacker and i got kicked off .
What's going on these day.
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Tulipunahapero 1月24日 11時25分 
I haven't experienced anything strange, yet. I started to play 2 days ago after almost half a year.
Sylwester 1月24日 11時37分 
Just because you "die in a flash" when you move close to some guy, doesn't mean that he is cheating. If you accused someone of cheating and based that only on your experience from the time when you were playing against that player then its not strange that you got kicked.

Before you start calling someone a cheater you need to specatate the suspect and you must have the ability to tell the difference between skilled player and a cheater.
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LimePuff 1月24日 12時39分 
10 time all die in a flash all means all.And these server disable the specatator mod
Parity 1月24日 14時12分 
What was your ping on that server?
It can seem odd to die in a flash, but do remember, a shotgun blast kills a skulk in one, lerk in one, fade in two, etc. It's not unreasonable when they score a good closeup hit.

Plus, hit detection is client side so you could even be fleeing and gotten behind a corner when you die because they hit you on their screen which then updates to the server.
Daxx 1月24日 15時40分 
Skywasher99 の投稿を引用:
Almost every rookie server got some top player they use shoot gun and never miss. 1 shoots a skulk 2 shoots a gorgoe 2 shoots a lerk 2 shoots and 2 shoots a FADE.
And there are some guy once u move close to him u just die in a flash. I say he is hacker and i got kicked off .
What's going on these day.

All of those shots are perfectly possible, and if your on rookie servers it's pretty easy to hit perfectly with the shotgun vs unskilled opponents.
UnReaL 1月24日 16時44分 
spectate and record them, easy. Reocrding programs are free and take 5 min to download and install. Alround it'll take 10 seconds to start the recording program.
If you suspect someone of cheating spectate and record, simple.
100% Recycled Awesome 1月24日 17時02分 
I haven't seen an obvious damage hack in a while. It's been at least 9 months since I saw the one swipe fade kill on a full health marine with armor 2. One in a while I'll get suspicious on a one skulk bite kill but that might be lag. That said know aimbotter corrupt convergence has yet to get banned.
LimePuff 1月25日 11時31分 
100% Recycled Awesome の投稿を引用:
I haven't seen an obvious damage hack in a while. It's been at least 9 months since I saw the one swipe fade kill on a full health marine with armor 2. One in a while I'll get suspicious on a one skulk bite kill but that might be lag. That said know aimbotter corrupt convergence has yet to get banned.
I do saw someone play fade use energy hack. Fist i thought it was the lag. But after i check on other skilled fade player. He regeneration energy while using Fade right mouse button ability.
LimePuff 1月25日 11時53分 
AND shoot gun is OP. On other FPS game shoot gun only have 9 bullets Max.normaly 6 to 9.
But NS2 have 12!!!! It should be 9 as pump action like SPAS12. 6 as auto gun like AA12.
MrMoffinz 1月25日 12時21分 
Skywasher99 の投稿を引用:
100% Recycled Awesome の投稿を引用:
I haven't seen an obvious damage hack in a while. It's been at least 9 months since I saw the one swipe fade kill on a full health marine with armor 2. One in a while I'll get suspicious on a one skulk bite kill but that might be lag. That said know aimbotter corrupt convergence has yet to get banned.
I do saw someone play fade use energy hack. Fist i thought it was the lag. But after i check on other skilled fade player. He regeneration energy while using Fade right mouse button ability.
Or he was near a Shift.... -_-

But yeah, this game has hackers, but the hacks are simply good enough that it's hard to tell from good to cheating.

VAC is a terrible cheat protection tool, almost anything can get by it.
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LimePuff 1月25日 12時30分 
No shift nearby he is in marine base and going to run away.
100% Recycled Awesome 1月25日 13時01分 
MrMuffinz の投稿を引用:
VAC is a terrible cheat protection tool, almost anything can get by it.

Honestly, I think VAC is only effective on Source games. One of my friends saw someone in game banned by VAC. Said something like "User XXX Has been banned and disconnected."

And a guy in TF2 that was obviously aimbotting was banned within a day. I checked his steam profile the day after I reported him (and the rest of the server did) and his account showed bans on record.
LimePuff 1月27日 2時46分 
100% Recycled Awesome の投稿を引用:
MrMuffinz の投稿を引用:
VAC is a terrible cheat protection tool, almost anything can get by it.

Honestly, I think VAC is only effective on Source games. One of my friends saw someone in game banned by VAC. Said something like "User XXX Has been banned and disconnected."

And a guy in TF2 that was obviously aimbotting was banned within a day. I checked his steam profile the day after I reported him (and the rest of the server did) and his account showed bans on record.
YEAH,like COD MW3 has vac but never ban a hacker,
Apheirox 1月27日 8時41分 
Topic: Guy starts playing game, meets better player, immediately accuses of hacking then proceeds to post on forums about it.

With that said, I did spot the one hacker I've come across on this game in over a hundred hours of play yesterday. However, this simply doesn't justify the rampant hackusations I'm seeing that get thrown around as soon as somebody is an inch better than the rest. You could have met a hacker, OP, but chances are very slim you did.
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