New player... Maybe?

[Zenith]

So I just installed this game, went through the tutorial, was incredibly psyched to play ... and I get into my first server.

Is this game even worth playing?

No communication, and what little there is, is toxic. Ask questions, get no answers, Get stomped by Fades and have no idea how to defeat them because the only answer I get is 'You don't, you die.'

Is this really how you guys want to introduce new players into this game? I really wanted to like this game but I've never been soured to a game this fast before in my life.

[Doctor Love]

Did you play on a rookie only server?

[dePARA]

So what do you want to hear here now?
No communication in a team? Happen often.
Toxic players in a multiplayer game? Sure, there are some. You have them in EVERY online game.
You playing with humans and they might no react like you want.

And to answer your Fade question.
How do you defeat the fade, by shooting it.
Best way is with an shotgun waiting at the escape route. So when the fade is low and he retreat for healing, one shot with the shotty and hes down.
Also med support from the commander is important during fights against higher lifefeorms like fades and lerks.

[Doctor Love]

If you give up after one game on one server in a multiplayer only pvp game than many popular games are not your cup of tea. (CS:GO, Overwatch, Battlefield, Dota, LoL, L4D2 and so forth).

[Major.Pain]

You got to ask yourself whether you are willing to invest some serious time into the game to get to a point where you know how to play and can hold your own, ish :)
If your not then i would refund it before your 2 hours are up because its not really a game you can pick up and play for 10 minutes here and there and expect to be good at, its an FPS sure but it makes CS:GO look like its running in slow motion.

[Zenith]

Originally posted by dePARA:

So what do you want to hear here now?
No communication in a team? Happen often.
Toxic players in a multiplayer game? Sure, there are some. You have them in EVERY online game.
You playing with humans and they might no react like you want.

And to answer your Fade question.
How do you defeat the fade, by shooting it.
Best way is with an shotgun waiting at the escape route. So when the fade is low and he retreat for healing, one shot with the shotty and hes down.
Also med support from the commander is important during fights against higher lifefeorms like fades and lerks.

It felt to me as if the shotgun did pathetic if any damage at all. I could shoot the little things (think they' called Skulks?) three or four times at only a few feet away and they took no damage or very little.

Originally posted by Major.Pain:

You got to ask yourself whether you are willing to invest some serious time into the game to get to a point where you know how to play and can hold your own, ish :)
If your not then i would refund it before your 2 hours are up because its not really a game you can pick up and play for 10 minutes here and there and expect to be good at, its an FPS sure but it makes CS:GO look like its running in slow motion.

Not really. I already have that with Overwatch. I'd like to get into this game and maybe, over time, I could get into it like that but I am already invested in other games too much to be able to do that with another.

[dePARA]

If you need 4 shots from an shotgun for one skulk, well, then your aim is really bad.
A skulk is insta-dead in short to medium range.
In long rage a shotgun is kinda useless, but thats the nature of a shotgun.

You can kill Fades with 2 and a half shotgun shots alone if its a bad fade.

[RenegadeFerret]

If nobody is helping you on one server, try another one. You should be able to find somebody willing to help you.

[Zenith]

Originally posted by dePARA:

If you need 4 shots from an shotgun for one skulk, well, then your aim is really bad.
A skulk is insta-dead in short to medium range.
In long rage a shotgun is kinda useless, but thats the nature of a shotgun.

You can kill Fades with 2 and a half shotgun shots alone if its a bad fade.

Nope, I have pretty good aim. I see the pellets hitting. But they don't die. Either bad registry, or latency, unsure of which. Don't have problems like that in games like Overwatch.

[dePARA]

You know that a shotgun has spread right? So if you see hits but need 4 shots then only a few bullets hit him. If you hit a skulk point black hes dead with one shot.
So no, your aim cant be that good.
You can basicly shred trough skulks with an shotgun.

And no, the hitreg is ok. You will always have people whining about it.
But thats the typical "Its always the others fault, not mine" syndrom.

You think you have good aim?
Watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZT7qMyPnB0

[JRex]

Originally posted by dePARA:

You know that a shotgun has spread right? So if you see hits but need 4 shots then only a few bullets hit him. If you hit a skulk point black hes dead with one shot.
So no, your aim cant be that good.
You can basicly shred trough skulks with an shotgun.

And no, the hitreg is ok. You will always have people whining about it.
But thats the typical "Its always the others fault, not mine" syndrom.

You think you have good aim?
Watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZT7qMyPnB0

i can confirm if you has decent aim with the shoty skulks hate you.

[Zenith]

So let me get this straight: You're supposed to hit fast circle-strafing short skulks with a shotgun? You guys do realize that shotguns are pretty damned effective even 4 or 5 feet in front of you in real life? You don't need to be touching them to do damage, or shouldn't.

It's a gun, not a melee weapon...

[Stark]

Originally posted by Zee:

So let me get this straight: You're supposed to hit fast circle-strafing short skulks with a shotgun? You guys do realize that shotguns are pretty damned effective even 4 or 5 feet in front of you in real life? You don't need to be touching them to do damage, or shouldn't.

It's a gun, not a melee weapon...

Yes. And you're supposed to hit faster, more erratic, stronger lerks and fades as well.

No one said it was a trivial skill to acquire, but the shotgun is undeniably the best anti-lifeform weapon. Having far more experience using the shotgun than you, it's obvious that you are blaming the wrong thing - the gun, rather than your own aim.

It doesn't make any sense to try to compare this to real life.

[Major.Pain]

Originally posted by Zee:

Originally posted by dePARA:

If you need 4 shots from an shotgun for one skulk, well, then your aim is really bad.
A skulk is insta-dead in short to medium range.
In long rage a shotgun is kinda useless, but thats the nature of a shotgun.

You can kill Fades with 2 and a half shotgun shots alone if its a bad fade.

Nope, I have pretty good aim. I see the pellets hitting. But they don't die. Either bad registry, or latency, unsure of which. Don't have problems like that in games like Overwatch.

There is an a couple of game options you can change to help you understand "if" your shots are actually connecting or not.

First you can display hit numbers and second your crosshair will change colour on hits though i think this second may be a mod.

What i use is turn on the hit sounds so you get little beeps when you do damage like you have in quake ect. This is what i use as the hit numbers clutter up the screen.

Also i would download a mod in Steam workshop to change your crosshairs to just a simple dot as again its less clutter around your target ect.

**In the video linked above it shows these options.

[dePARA]

Did you watch the video?
There multiple examples how to trap a fade wich should answer your initial question.
Also you see one shotgunner kills 4 skulks alone without reloading.

So instead of learning from the video you blaming the game that its not realistic enough for you.
Whats coming next? Calling us to be toxic cause we said you have no good aim?
"Its always the others fault, not mine" syndrom incoming.

[Major.Pain]

Info that might help i posted in another thread is if you have a newer Nvidia card use the replay function in the Nvidia Geforce Experience, you can config it so if after something in game happens you don't understand just hit Alt+F10 and it will save the last 30 seconds/5 minutes or whatever you set of gameplay so you can alt-tab out and see what happened.