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Neróxide Jul 12, 2013 @ 10:29pm
Wanna buy but not sure?
Is this worth buying? and I was wondering if it would run on Windows 8 64-bit, thanks.
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Judgment Fish Jul 16, 2013 @ 2:43am 
came in to ask this.... its a ghost town man
Raydell Jul 25, 2013 @ 3:58am 
(( You can skip to the TLDR conclusion and 2014 updated final thoughts at the end of the post if you don't feel like reading the details ))

I know this reply comes a little late now that the sale is over, but I'll post it nonetheless in case anyone else comes here looking to buy this game.

So this is an RPG with mild real-time strategy elements, very similar to the Spellforce series. The main thing going for it is the advanced, Diablo-style loot system where any badguy (even the most ordinary footsoldier) can drop loot with random characteristics and rarity.

Unlike in Spellforce, you only control one hero per campaign here + the regular soldiers you may recruit. The focus is on the RPG part, the strategy elements are just a very basic sideshow (nowhere near the scope of a true RTS) and can be almost entirely optional if you prefer the Rambo way of settling matters.

The campaign plays like an old-school RTS where you advance through a chain of mission maps in a linear fashion. The maps typically have a main quest-line + optional sidequests. There's a good sense of power progression from being able to beat only a handful of simple grunts at the start to wrecking armies and going toe-to-toe with dragons as your hero acquires experience and equipment.

There are two campaigns if I recall. You unlock the second one after finishing the first.

One interesting element that's somewhat unique to this game are the so called "Challenge" maps, which you can also unlock more of as you play through the campaign. They're like an optional mission map with a large sidequest for loot and experience. Once you finish the campaign, you can use your hero to play through the challenge maps, and repeat them as many times as you like to gain additional loot and levels. Some of these are very difficult (or impossible) even for a high level hero who just beat the campaign, so this does expand the game's lifespan a bit.

Apparently, you can also create a character purely for the challenge maps without playing the campaign, but I haven't explored that option yet.


And now lets talk about COMPATIBILITY:

I tested the game on Win 7 64-bit, Vista 32-bit and Win XP 32-bit. It runs on all of them as far as the operating system compatibility goes.

HOWEVER (for ATI video card owners):
In my tests, the game had some serious issues with modern ATI drivers. The issue manifests in broken ground textures (where ground textures don't fade into eachother but appear as distinct squares, like a chess board). This makes the game very unpleasant to the eyes if you run into this problem.

SOLUTION:
After two days of trying to troubleshoot the problem, here are my suggestions: You need to downgrade your ATI drivers. The extent to which you can do this will depend on your OS and your video card so be warned, this may not be possible on your system. For instance my Radeon HD 6870 cannot downgrade far enough on a Win 7 64-bit OS, however the same card's drivers can be downgraded sufficiently on Win XP-32 bit. On the other hand, an older card probably wouldn't have problems downgrading even on Win 7.

Pre-2011 drivers seem to work best. With a Radeon HD 6870 card and Win XP 32-bit, the game runs flawlessly with the 10.12 Catalyst drivers. It also runs without said texture issues on a Vista 32-bit laptop with a HD 3450 card and 2009 drivers (though the latter can only run at low settings without framerate issues).

I can't comment on how things are with NVIDIA cards as I don't have one, but people seem to be posting healthy screenshots so these issues may not affect them at all.

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TLDR:

I tested the game on Win 7 64-bit, Vista 32-bit and XP 32-bit and it runs well on all 3 (BUT latest ATI video card drivers mess up the ground textures). It's not a bad game, but there are better ones for the same price. In my opinion, it could be worth 4-5€ (50% sale or greater) if you don't mind the Warcraft III-era graphics and the Diablo-style gameplay of exploring around, killing things for loot and levels. It has around 15-35 hours of gameplay in it depending on how far you can go before the repetitiveness gets to you + its ability to scratch the Diablo-loot itch may draw you back from time to time for a Challenge map or two.

On the other hand, if you're an ATI owner with a modern card (read above), I'd advise trying out if you can downgrade to pre-2011 drivers before you purchase. I'm not saying it's worth the hassle, but if you really want this game, it's something to consider.

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EDIT (2014.06.13.):

I just got to try the game on a PC with integrated Intel HD Graphics (4600) and it works without issues on these GPUs too.

Reading through my post, my description of the game may be a bit more glowing than I intended it to be so let me put a warning here that while Dimensity does have a certain simple charm to it, everything it does has been done better. Eventhough the loot system is Diablo-like, it's of course not as diverse as Diablo's. The skill variety is also rather small, the fights are simple and repetitive, most maps are quite short and there's no RPG style story interaction with characters through dialogue choices or such, they just give you quests and you either do them or you don't.

All in all, Dimensity is more like a charming, simple B-movie that's good enough to pass some time with, but nothing spectacular so don't get your expectations too high.

RECOMMENDATIONS:

- If the concept of a fantasy RPG-RTS mix intrigues you, I'd definitely suggest you pick up Spellforce 2 instead. It's more developed than Dimensity in every aspect.
- If it's more just a hack-and-slash RPG with addictive loot-hunt and power-progression you're after, then get Diablo 2 or Titan Quest.
- If you're looking for an RPG with a stellar story/character development, large game-world and great freedom of choice, with still a fair deal of equipment/power-progression, get Baldur's Gate 2 or Fallout 1-2.

These are just examples of course, but Dimensity is an "entry level" game compared to these classic greats which are around the same price nowadays, so unless you catch a 75% sale your money would be much better spent getting one (or all) of the above before even considering getting something 2nd rate like Dimensity. This game is more for the bored enthusiasts like myself who have already played most of the 1st rate games of the genre and are willing to settle for less just to get their fix. If you're one of the latter, it's worth a shot, but genre newcomers deserve better for the price. :)
Last edited by Raydell; Jun 20, 2014 @ 7:50am
Neróxide Jul 25, 2013 @ 11:52am 
Thanks for the comment! I'm a big fan of Warcraft 3 so that doesn't put me off one bit nor does the diablo style gameplay. I will look into it more like gameplay etc. Thaks :)
MSJ-06II-C Sep 22, 2013 @ 1:08pm 
ah good ol warcraft III man i enjoyed it so much, is there the warcraft III possibility of creating custom maps
Storm_at_Sea Dec 19, 2013 @ 2:20pm 
Originally posted by Raydell:
I know this reply comes a little late now that the sale is over, but I'll post it nonetheless in case anyone else comes here looking to buy this game.

So this is an RPG with real-time strategy elements, very similar to the Spellforce series. The main thing going for it is the advanced, Diablo-style loot system where any badguy (even the most ordinary footsoldier) can drop loot with random characteristics and rarity.

Unlike in Spellforce, you only control one hero per campaign here + the regular soldiers you may recruit. The focus is on the RPG part, the strategy elements are just a sideshow and can be almost entirely optional if you prefer the Rambo way of settling matters.

The campaign plays like an old-school RTS where you advance through a chain of mission maps in a linear fashion. The maps typically have a main quest-line + optional sidequests. There's a good sense of power progression from being able to beat only a handful of simple grunts at the start to wrecking armies and going toe-to-toe with dragons as your hero acquires experience and equipment.

There are two campaigns if I recall. You unlock the second one after finishing the first.

One interesting element that's somewhat unique to this game are the so called "Challenge" maps, which you can also unlock more of as you play through the campaign. They're like an optional mission map with a large sidequest for loot and experience. Once you finish the campaign, you can use your hero to play through the challenge maps, and repeat them as many times as you like to gain additional loot and levels. Some of these are very difficult (or impossible) even for a high level hero who just beat the campaign, so this does expand the game's lifespan a bit.

Apparently, you can also create a character purely for the challenge maps without playing the campaign, but I haven't explored that option yet.


And now lets talk about COMPATIBILITY:

I tested the game on Win 7 64-bit, Vista 32-bit and Win XP 32-bit. It runs on all of them as far as the operating system compatibility goes.

HOWEVER (for ATI video card owners):
In my tests, the game had some serious issues with modern ATI drivers. The issue manifests in broken ground textures (where ground textures don't fade into eachother but appear as distinct squares, like a chess board). This makes the game very unpleasant to the eyes if you run into this problem.

SOLUTION:
After two days of trying to troubleshoot the problem, here are my suggestions: You need to downgrade your ATI drivers. The extent to which you can do this will depend on your OS and your video card so be warned, this may not be possible on your system. For instance my Radeon HD 6870 cannot downgrade far enough on a Win 7 64-bit OS, however the same card's drivers can be downgraded sufficiently on Win XP-32 bit. On the other hand, an older card probably wouldn't have problems downgrading even on Win 7.

Pre-2011 drivers seem to work best. With a Radeon HD 6870 card and Win XP 32-bit, the game runs flawlessly with the 10.12 Catalyst drivers. It also runs without said texture issues on a Vista 32-bit laptop with a HD 3450 card and 2009 drivers (though the latter can only run at low settings without framerate issues).

I can't comment on how things are with NVIDIA cards as I don't have one, but people seem to be posting healthy screenshots so these issues may not affect them at all.


TLDR:

In my opinion, the game could be worth 7-8€ if you don't mind the Warcraft III-era graphics and the Diablo-style gameplay of exploring around, killing things for loot and levels. It has around 25-40 hours of gameplay in it + its ability to scratch the Diablo-loot itch may draw you back from time to time for a Challenge map or two.

On the other hand, if you're an ATI owner with a modern card (read above), I'd advise trying out if you can downgrade to pre-2011 drivers before you purchase.
Thanks for choosing to leave behind some information for those of us who come peeking in on sales. While I'm an nVidia user the Win7 64 information is most helpful and I doubt I will have any troubles running it, and at a little over $2 I'm quite willing to risk it! Older gameplay beats newer to me most the time these days. Classic PC Mouse Keyboard! Right up my alley.
Last edited by Storm_at_Sea; Dec 19, 2013 @ 2:21pm
Ears14U Jan 16, 2014 @ 10:25am 
I missed picking this one up at the holiday 2013 sale. However, for a 5 year old game, the $9.99 price is a bit steep Steam. I'll wait again until the next holiday sale. Update: Picked this up a day or two ago, and installed it. I believe this is going to be a pretty good title, since I haven't played it just yet.
Last edited by Ears14U; May 16, 2014 @ 8:24pm
Storm_at_Sea Jan 17, 2014 @ 4:28am 
Originally posted by Ears14U ™:
I missed picking this one up at the holiday 2013 sale. However for a 5 year old game, the $9.99 price is a bit steep Steam. I'll wait again until the next holiday sale.
Steam doesn't dictate the price. The ppl that put the game out do. Steam can only dictate the price of Valve games since the same ppl own both companies.
Corrandk May 14, 2014 @ 9:00am 
I wish there was a "upvote" or something along those lines for people like Raydell. Thanks for taking the time to write that up man.
Captain Electric May 16, 2014 @ 7:20pm 
Thanks for the detailed review and information, Raydell. Picking this up on the Strategy First/Empire Interactive sale for $1.99. I've had my eye on this game for years honestly, the unique fantasy elements, such as races like ghosts and Fir Bolg, seem interesting. Surprised this game hasn't had more attention paid to it by people. I'm not a big RTS gamer and the only other RTS I've gotten into was the Dawn of War series, which I have played for YEARS. I really like how DoW 2 incorporates some RPG elements, so maybe I'll like this a bunch too and it'll be set in a different kind of world.
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