Saki (Banned) Jul 24, 2013 @ 3:32am
FOR ALL THE BEGINNERS!!!
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Smokeymaplebacon Jul 24, 2013 @ 5:10am 
Great Link ."Stay Crispy"
Tuhnu Jul 24, 2013 @ 6:21am 
I would also recommend the newcomers to check out the VesperArcade Super Street Fighter 4 tutorials: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL744144A71C67D816
Painkiller Jul 30, 2013 @ 4:38pm 
tryed both of the links, this game is just hell, i gived up on it, not beginner friendly at all
BS|Rickie82 Jul 30, 2013 @ 11:31pm 
Thats kinda the charm of this game. It rewards training and knowledge ^^
Nuk Soo Kow Jul 31, 2013 @ 12:37am 
Originally posted by Painkiller:
tryed both of the links, this game is just hell, i gived up on it, not beginner friendly at all
Don't give up with it. It just gets better and better the more you practice and understand the mechanics. I am still learning and have yet to master a single character but i'd be happy to play some practice matches with you if you want help on the bare bones of a character you like to use.
Saki (Banned) Jul 31, 2013 @ 4:27am 
Originally posted by Painkiller:
tryed both of the links, this game is just hell, i gived up on it, not beginner friendly at all

In this case you gonna have a bad time. Fighting games require hard training.
Painkiller Jul 31, 2013 @ 10:35am 
Originally posted by Szaki:
Originally posted by Painkiller:
tryed both of the links, this game is just hell, i gived up on it, not beginner friendly at all

In this case you gonna have a bad time. Fighting games require hard training.

well i suppose some months can be considered a base, but with this game ths frustration level is just to high and even with that timei still dont have the basics, unless other games you just give you the basics and says "now just keep training your skill and forget" but not that game its like the the darksouls of the fighting games: kick the player in the nuts and ask him if he is getitng fun
Tuhnu Jul 31, 2013 @ 10:42am 
Originally posted by Painkiller:
well i suppose some months can be considered a base, but with this game ths frustration level is just to high and even with that timei still dont have the basics, unless other games you just give you the basics and says "now just keep training your skill and forget" but not that game its like the the darksouls of the fighting games: kick the player in the nuts and ask him if he is getitng fun

I enjoy both Street Fighter and Dark Souls a lot. It's not about getting kicked in the nuts and having fun with that, it's about learning to deal with whatever the game throws at you and feeling good about getting better.

If you're used to just getting everything handed to you and being told you are a good player, then these kinds of games are just not for you.
Painkiller Jul 31, 2013 @ 10:56am 
sorry but i always hated those kind of games, and its why i finished darksouls and will definitivelly stop SF, the level of frustration is too high for too long, killed the game to me, now need to find another fight game to play with friends, since SF will be a unfriendly for them too need to warn them
doc Jul 31, 2013 @ 3:12pm 
Originally posted by Painkiller:
tryed both of the links, this game is just hell, i gived up on it, not beginner friendly at all
SF is a very competitive game, like Dota2 or basketball, or anything that involves a very high amount of practice before you stop being bad.

You play SF because you want the challenge of exploring a closed system of rules and interactions. It is not going to make you "feel-good" just for playing it. The rewards for it's good play are intrinsic.

This style of game really isn't for everyone unfortunately - so don't beat yourself up too much for not wanting to spend 8+ months constantly losing.
Painkiller Jul 31, 2013 @ 3:15pm 
Originally posted by doc:
Originally posted by Painkiller:
tryed both of the links, this game is just hell, i gived up on it, not beginner friendly at all
SF is a very competitive game, like Dota2 or basketball, or anything that involves a very high amount of practice before you stop being bad.

You play SF because you want the challenge of exploring a closed system of rules and interactions. It is not going to make you "feel-good" just for playing it. The rewards for it's good play are intrinsic.

This style of game really isn't for everyone unfortunately - so don't beat yourself up too much for not wanting to spend 8+ months constantly losing.


Then why lot of people argue the opposite:
http://shoryuken.com/2013/07/23/so-you-want-to-learn-to-play-a-fighting-game/
doc Jul 31, 2013 @ 3:20pm 
Originally posted by Painkiller:
Then why lot of people argue the opposite:
http://shoryuken.com/2013/07/23/so-you-want-to-learn-to-play-a-fighting-game/
Because they don't want to "scare off" new people.

It's real unfortunate when someone picks it up, doesn't get it, and then swears off all fighting games - but I'm not going to pretend that it's a genre for everybody and one that everyone has an equal chance of having fun.

Street Fighter is hard because you are up against more than just the system, you are up against another human that ALSO knows the system - probably better than you. It's this disparity between skills where a lot of value in the game can come out.

The person who is whomping you 50 times in a row isn't doing anything different, they aren't playing on some hacked console, they don't have cheated files that make their moves work better - they just have learned the system more.

I really enjoy that there are games that allow this kind of depth. Not everyone does and not everyone should assume everyone should like fighting games.
chronometer Jul 31, 2013 @ 9:46pm 
That's why when you start, you learn the basics in training mode and then play against the CPU in arcade mode. By basics, I mean normals and some specials. Learn how to use supers and ultras. Choose a character that you like. One of the shotos is a good start (ryu, ken, akuma). Start out in easy mode and work your way up. Going up against people online with your equal ranking can be about the equivalent to hard mode in Arcade. This means you will lose, a lot. That's how you get better though. I got thrashed completely until I got better and I still get whipped half the time. It's the nature of fighters.
Painkiller Aug 1, 2013 @ 12:03am 
Well for me the basics are: the simple movements and the block system, and after all that time the CPU always kicks my ♥♥♥ at the same level in arcade, of course i just don't smash buttons , and the training mode of SFIV is the worst i had ever seen in a fighting game, completly useless since i dont have the informations a need and the list of your combos is just a pain in the ♥♥♥


Originally posted by doc:
Originally posted by Painkiller:
Then why lot of people argue the opposite:
http://shoryuken.com/2013/07/23/so-you-want-to-learn-to-play-a-fighting-game/
Because they don't want to "scare off" new people.

Wait this is more like lying to the new players...this is just wrong

PS: about the caracter => i played juri and i don't want to play another char, because if i can't even pick i caracter i want from strat and learn it like blazeblue, than i think is not even a good game from the start
Last edited by Painkiller; Aug 1, 2013 @ 12:10am
Jayson Aug 1, 2013 @ 5:54am 
The best way to get into fighting games is just to try and have fun. My advice would be to stay offline and just play against the computer or other friends in real life until you're feeling confident. There's a lot to learn and it can be overwhelming and frustrating if you try to jump right into online play or tournaments, and while you can pick up a lot of tips and techniques from watching really good people play, playing against them when you're not at the same level they are is completely useless.

TLDR: Vespercade and Shoryuken, practice, skip online in the beginning, and have fun. Maybe watch some tournament videos and try to figure out what they're doing.


HAVE FUN!
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