Denigrate Jan 26 @ 6:28pm
Is it just me, or does the AI cheat?
Is it just me, or does the AI cheat? On Hardest difficulty, the AI seems to read my inputs. I'll input a move, and the SPLIT SECOND I input it, the AI starts a move that directly counters it. It happens too often to be a fluke.

I know the AI programming has to take a few "liberties" to keep up with human players, but like I said, it feels cheap. I'd rather the AI get better at combos or punishes instead of cheating. Does it actually cheat by reading your inputs?

I'm not a noob. Definately not that good either. But I I would hope that by now I would be able to detect cheating............and this feels like "it". I would think on "Hardest" (the hardest difficulty the game has to offer), the AI would utilize 19 hit combos instead of cheating, if for nothing else in order to prepare you for higher levels of play. Why is this not the case?

Having it read inputs while dropping combos and missing punishes (which it does ALL the time) is just misleading for new players that are trying to get a feeling for the game.


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Kayo Jan 26 @ 8:21pm 
"I'm not a noob" But you are complaining about the bad a.i in sf4 reading inputs.
Denigrate Jan 26 @ 8:23pm 
Originally posted by Kayo:
"I'm not a noob" But you are complaining about the bad a.i in sf4 reading inputs.

Are you saying it doesn't?
D33Z33 Jan 26 @ 8:25pm 
wait til he plays online LOL ermagerd erbody is h4x0r
Denigrate Jan 26 @ 8:27pm 
Originally posted by D33Z33:
wait til he plays online LOL ermagerd erbody is h4x0r

I have played online, and it feels much more natural. I'm not complaining that the AI is difficult. I'm complaining that it cheats instead of playing well. And there is no reason for that.
hulcalan Jan 26 @ 8:41pm 
wait... the A.I. in AE is difficult?
D33Z33 Jan 26 @ 8:58pm 
Originally posted by hulcalan:
wait... the A.I. in AE is difficult?

I should play on hardest, this way when i play online, i can pwn people LOL
chunkilover23 Jan 26 @ 9:10pm 
All fighting games A.I. reads your input. It has been like that since the days of SF1.
nop_jne Jan 26 @ 9:45pm 
Originally posted by Denigrate:
Is it just me, or does the AI cheat?

AI on Hardest difficulty is dumb anyway, you can pretty much just lock it in a focus attack followed by a combo, do that 2 times and your opponent gets stunned. Then just keep doing it. In this respect the AI really poses no challenge.

The way you explain it though, as if the AI is reading your input, is a little funny :)
The game is definitely reading you input, duh, otherwise you wouldn't be able to move.

I do understand what you're saying:. You'll try to attack and the AI will counter you just in time, something you don't expect from a human player because he probably wouldn't be fast enough and would be forced to block. After blocking your attack however the human player would go and punish your attack. The AI just does this a little differently, instead of punishing your attack after a block string. It punishes your, way too obvious, attacks right at that time.

Here is another example: If you were to start spamming hard attacks or trying to grab multiple times in succession in a match. An experienced opponent will use light attacks to open you up for a combo.

At harder difficulty the AI mostly teaches you how to defend and when to punish. It is not a very good sparring partner.
Freedom The Metroid Jan 27 @ 11:29am 
Originally posted by Denigrate:
Is it just me, or does the AI cheat? On Hardest difficulty, the AI seems to read my inputs. I'll input a move, and the SPLIT SECOND I input it, the AI starts a move that directly counters it. It happens too often to be a fluke.

I know the AI programming has to take a few "liberties" to keep up with human players, but like I said, it feels cheap. I'd rather the AI get better at combos or punishes instead of cheating. Does it actually cheat by reading your inputs?

I'm not a noob. Definately not that good either. But I I would hope that by now I would be able to detect cheating............and this feels like "it". I would think on "Hardest" (the hardest difficulty the game has to offer), the AI would utilize 19 hit combos instead of cheating, if for nothing else in order to prepare you for higher levels of play. Why is this not the case?

Having it read inputs while dropping combos and missing punishes (which it does ALL the time) is just misleading for new players that are trying to get a feeling for the game.
This game is a completely different concept than the original street fighter games, and I gotta agree. The gameplay styles of this game are completely difficult, and the AI is relentless and punishing. Getting gangbanged by hadoukens near a wall, how cool. Maybe it's because I'm playing this game with a keyboard, but I don't think that's the problem.
Shouxiao 桜のライオン Jan 27 @ 3:10pm 
Once you learn the AI's pattern they become predictable. They AI do read inputs but there are still ways around it.
Kayo Jan 28 @ 6:33am 
You should try the AI in ST. Would be lots of fun for you
nop_jne Jan 28 @ 8:05am 
Originally posted by Denigrate:
Originally posted by D33Z33:
wait til he plays online LOL ermagerd erbody is h4x0r

I have played online, and it feels much more natural. I'm not complaining that the AI is difficult. I'm complaining that it cheats instead of playing well. And there is no reason for that.


I think the general consensus is git gud. :) sorry.
Couchfighter Jan 28 @ 5:29pm 
Fighting the AI just teaches you how to cheese it with light attacks and focus attacks which of course isn't going to take you very far online. On second thought.. it usually does a flawless job punishing you for jumping, which is good. Stay on the ground!

No but seriously, the only thing arcade mode is good for is some occational combo practice while waiting for fight request to pop.
FLASHNSON1C Jan 29 @ 10:57am 
you should always be UNPREDICTABLE.. try it man and try to read opponents pattern.. at this way you can also read AI input..
pilori Jan 30 @ 8:18pm 
Originally posted by Couchfighter:
Fighting the AI just teaches you how to cheese it with light attacks and focus attacks which of course isn't going to take you very far online. On second thought.. it usually does a flawless job punishing you for jumping, which is good. Stay on the ground!

No but seriously, the only thing arcade mode is good for is some occational combo practice while waiting for fight request to pop.

This pretty much ^ playing against humans has a different rhythm to it all together
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