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Randy Marsh Mar 25, 2013 @ 11:28am
To all of you looking to make a purchase of dirt 3
Please be aware it uses a third party drm login called "games for windows live"

This means that you login to steam.. click to play your game.. then you have to login to windows live..

I myself will not be purchasing this because of that fact alone. I do not support excessive drm use.
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Khyber VT Mar 25, 2013 @ 11:29am 
oh get over it. it's $8.50
Fawnak Mar 25, 2013 @ 11:32am 
Why are you crying about DRM when Steam itself is a form of it?
Spankdragon engage Audrey Marie Mar 25, 2013 @ 11:37am 
Originally posted by Threefiddy:
oh get over it. it's $8.50
yup brought it. was waitign for sale on it
EnderW Mar 25, 2013 @ 11:38am 
well, steam actually works, gfwl renders a lot of games for a lot of ppl useless
Raiden_chino Mar 25, 2013 @ 11:38am 
Originally posted by Doofta:
Why are you crying about DRM when Steam itself is a form of it?

Well, that's the point. If Steam is DRM then why does it have another DRM?

I don't have problems with GFWL, but I prefer if games don't use it.
blaa Mar 25, 2013 @ 11:39am 
Well I just spent 40 minutes setting up an account and trying to log in. It would deny my account information over and over again till it finally worked... it was horrifying. GFWL = never again.
Khyber VT Mar 25, 2013 @ 11:40am 
I don't mind GFWL as I have an xbox and it all goes towards my achievement scores and I can keep up with my xbox friends inside my supeiror pc version.
Fawnak Mar 25, 2013 @ 11:40am 
Sometimes GFWL bugs out for me but most of the time it's fine.
And you don't even need an account, you can just make an offline profile. I don't think most people know that.
Randy Marsh Mar 25, 2013 @ 11:40am 
Originally posted by Doofta:
Why are you crying about DRM when Steam itself is a form of it?

Im really not interested in opinions. I dont like excessive drm in my games. its not needed. Plenty of games boot up right from steam. That is how it should be for most.

GFWL is pointless
Origin Is pointless
UPLAY is pointless..

all can be found shoved into great games for no reason other than to make money pushing dlc's

Steam is the primary distribution source of most any game today. They are more than enough security for any game.

I have a problem with these third party drm and distrubution platforms and want them gone from my steam games. so i refuse to play games with third party drm.. yes i am missing out on tons of good games but that is what integrity is.

At no point do i give any ♥♥♥♥♥ about your opinion on me crying (and seriously look up the definition in the dictionary your embarrassing yourself) I was simply providing info to potentual buyers like me that want to avoid needless drm..

It was informative.. you on the other hand are crying.. and hence my less than nice response.


Khyber VT Mar 25, 2013 @ 11:43am 
so bascially you're saying steam is the holy grail and other corporations can't/shouldn't have their own digital distribution services?

come on man. that's like saying mcdonalds and burger king can't be across street from each other.
Randy Marsh Mar 25, 2013 @ 11:44am 
Originally posted by Threefiddy:
so bascially you're saying steam is the holy grail and other corporations can't/shouldn't have their own digital distribution services?

come on man. that's like saying mcdonalds and burger king can't be across street from each other.

No i am saying steam is the only one that actually works. And instead of FORCING needless secondary drm into the games maybe the companies should just try to beat out steam instead. Not by forcing players to use their service but actually providing a service that is not broken for fourty percent of the people who are forced to attempt to use it.

and if the are going to continue to make these bad third party drm programs i will continue to hate on them and say steam is the best. Because steam IS ACTUALLY the best and only valid one.. These others are not actual competition but just leeches making your experience less fun just so they can get there own addspace in there.

ALSO YES IM LOGGING ONTO STEAM BECAUSE I WANT TO SUPPORT STEAM.. a good company run by a total baddass.. yes.. i want them to be top.. because steam is the only one of the programs that have proved that they actually give a ♥♥♥♥.. yes of course steam is out to make money like the rest of them. but at least they realize that simplification is the way and not convoluted third party steps.
Khyber VT Mar 25, 2013 @ 11:52am 
well that's like your opinion man.

steam is far from perfect. It is actually quite flawed.
Axe Mar 25, 2013 @ 11:56am 
Originally posted by Doofta:
Sometimes GFWL bugs out for me but most of the time it's fine.
And you don't even need an account, you can just make an offline profile. I don't think most people know that.

That's true but you also will not have the benefits that come with a live account.

In fact don't you have to register your game through a live account - I can't remember?
beerland Mar 25, 2013 @ 11:58am 
Originally posted by Threefiddy:
well that's like your opinion man.

steam is far from perfect. It is actually quite flawed.

But every other service is worse... Enough said :P

Anyhow price is nice but still not cheap enough to make me bother with GFWL again. Took me ages before Bioshock 2 would work + their cloud sucks balls too, so many savegames gone missing.
[BUL]Ragnarous Mar 25, 2013 @ 11:59am 
Isn't it the same with BFBC2? Click play>Start Origin?
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