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justbiglee  [developer] Jan 30 @ 4:40am
GFWL Removal and More of Your Frequently Asked Questions Answered
Greetings all,

I'm Lee your friendly neighborhood community manager, I will admit to being a total lurker here on the Steam forums and I wanted to thank everybody who regularly helps out the other users with their problems. I figured it's time I was a little more active on here though and I wanted to clear up some of your frequently asked questions.

Whats The Deal With Games For Windows Live?
We are working on removing Games For Windows Live from DiRT 3 and when the work is finished we'll be pushing an update via Steam and you will all be upgraded free of charge. I'm going to be honest with you, I don't know when that work will be complete but I will let you know as soon as I do.

I Have a Boxed Copy of DiRT 3 - What about me?
The current plan is to allow anybody who has a boxed copy of DiRT 3 to redeem their CD key via Steam which will add DiRT 3 to your Steam library - there is a chance the process of how you get your copy might change and we're working with Valve to make sure it's as painless as possible.

Why Can't I Download The DLC?
Because the GFWL market place is currently shut down unfortunately you can't purchase or download the DLC for DiRT 3, we will be making the DLC available on Steam when the Steamworks version of the game is available.

WTF! My Game Won't Start
Some users do have trouble starting the game, this seems to be an install/GFWL issue. Try downloading and installing the GFWL client manually and it should work fine Link[www.xbox.com]

How Can I Contact You?
You can obviously contact me here on the Steam Forums or on Twitter I'm not going to be much use for technical questions in 140 characters so if you are having problems with the game it would be best to contact custserv@codemasters.com, let them know as much as you can about the problem and your rig set up and they will do their best to help. If you want to keep up with what the DiRT team are currently up to then you can follow DiRT on Twitter and Facebook and the CodiesBlog[blog.codemasters.com]

Can I Re-download content I have already purchased on GFWL?
Turns out you can, 10 cool points each to Axe and Aergistal. Details here

I'm pretty sure that's the major questions that come up answered, I'll keep this first post updated with any others that crop up

---Update 01/07/14 ---
So yeah it’s safe to say we're running behind, I can only apologise for that. As for news on when the work will be completed I don't have an answer for you at the moment, I'm badgering the guy heading up the project on an almost hourly basis (that’s not an over exaggeration either) and as soon as I have more news I'll let you know.
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One X Jan 30 @ 4:48am 
Great news. Will you add achievements to steamworks version?
[CMC] GLADOSCHELL Jan 30 @ 4:51am 
Thank you! I hope this move will happen as soon as possible!
I have one question, thought: I've purchased some DLC (mostly cars pack). When the game, and DLCs, will be on Steamworks, will I have to pay that DLCs again?
justbiglee  [developer] Jan 30 @ 5:53am 
Originally posted by One X:
Great news. Will you add achievements to steamworks version?

Hopefully we will yes, as soon as I know its a 100% thing thing I'll update the first post.

Originally posted by CMC GLADOSCHELL:
Thank you! I hope this move will happen as soon as possible!
I have one question, thought: I've purchased some DLC (mostly cars pack). When the game, and DLCs, will be on Steamworks, will I have to pay that DLCs again?
There are a few different ways we can go about this and we haven't decided which one is best yet, as soon as I know more I'll let you know.
marcello Jan 30 @ 6:08am 
Thanks for the update justbiglee. Is this update weeks or months away yet ?? & can you tell me why Dirt 1 & 2 are no longer avialiable on Steam ??
Last edited by marcello; Jan 30 @ 6:09am
justbiglee  [developer] Jan 30 @ 7:04am 
Originally posted by marcello:
Thanks for the update justbiglee. Is this update weeks or months away yet ?? & can you tell me why Dirt 1 & 2 are no longer avialiable on Steam ??
At the minute the honest answer is I really don't know, the DiRT team are stacked with the next project and freeing up peoples time to get this done is our biggest challenge, I just wanted to let you guys know that we are committed to getting it done. As for DiRT 1 & 2, it was part of the licencing deal that was set up with car manufacturers which expired.
marcello Jan 30 @ 8:03am 
Wat a pity there are many ppl like me who want Dirt despite owning a retail disc copy or 2 like me :) still want it in their steam collection, expired licence means no chance anymore period :( anyway many thanks i look forward to the patch & the end of GFLW
union Jan 30 @ 10:31am 
Originally posted by justbiglee:
WTF! My Game Won't Start
Some users do have trouble starting the game, this seems to be an install/GFWL issue. Try downloading and installing the GFWL client manually and it should work fine Link[www.xbox.com]

Not in here :(
DESTROYER Jan 30 @ 11:31am 
I have the Complete Edition of DiRT 3, will the included DLC be automatically added to my Steam account, once we're able to redeem our CD keys?
DUKAPb Jan 30 @ 11:42am 
I have all Dirt`s games at my steam library. Will I have some bonuses for it?
justbiglee  [developer] Jan 30 @ 12:12pm 
Originally posted by DESTROYER:
I have the Complete Edition of DiRT 3, will the included DLC be automatically added to my Steam account, once we're able to redeem our CD keys?

Yup :)

Originally posted by DUKAPb:
I have all Dirt`s games at my steam library. Will I have some bonuses for it?:spazwinky:
Nice try :P
Loco Jan 30 @ 12:31pm 
Anything is better than GFWL, so there is that.
DeathStrike (DS) Jan 30 @ 1:07pm 
Justbiglee, I'm really happy you guys are making the big step towards Steam platform, GFWL was poor home for Dirt3 and an absolute nightmare for us gamers. PS. I've just purchased Dirt3 now :)
Equation™ Jan 30 @ 2:11pm 
Can't wait for GFWL to be removed and by the way this is a fantastic game! I know when Bioshock 2 got GFWL removed they included the DLC for all current owners of the game on Steam (as they couldn't tell who had and hadn't downloaded the DLC on GFWL)

Will this be the same for current owners of Dirt3?
hiyoungin Jan 30 @ 2:14pm 
awesome! I'm so happy to hear that
off in the shower Jan 30 @ 3:16pm 
Dear Codies,

Can you (and other developers stop putting DRM) on your games. "But I'm afraid of piracy," you say and I think you are wrong. DRM including GFWL has hurt your sales from me. I rarely now purchase any game that is linked to DRM (except for steam) but even then I refuse to pay more than 10 dollars unless it is something I really want. I do not want to take the risk that my game will not work in the future or if I build a new PC, or put in a new motherboard. So instead of buying at full price I will pick it up on sale. Or "demo" it until it goes on sale. If in the future it stops working (ala my Dirt 2) and I only paid I few dollars I do not care. However, if I paid full price I'd be annoyed--probably enough to not purchase any new titles from said company.

TL;DR DRM is possibly hurting sale or lowering the price point at which people will buy your items and might actually lead some to pirate instead of paying for it so they don't have to worry about the game suddenly ceasing to work at some arbitray point in the future.
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