Drifzepeli Nov 26, 2012 @ 6:26pm
Objectively Best Loadouts for Each Class
What is the objectively best loadout for each class (regardless of how cheap it might be)?
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[Chicken]Unifex Nov 26, 2012 @ 6:47pm 
There is none. It depends on map and situation. Often stock items are actually the best.
GarnetSnatcher Nov 26, 2012 @ 6:54pm 
Originally posted by ChickenUnifex:
There is none. It depends on map and situation. Often stock items are actually the best.
This.
Smeg Head Nov 26, 2012 @ 7:31pm 
What is the objective you are trying to accomplish?
The Wild West Pyro Nov 26, 2012 @ 11:10pm 
The official wiki recommends:

Scout:
Primary: Scattergun or Force A Nature
Secondary: Bonk! Atomic Punch
Melee: Bat or Sandman

Soldier:
Primary: Rocket Launcher
Secondary: Shotgun
Melee: Equalizer or Escape Plan

Pyro:
Primary: Flamethrower
Secondary: Shotgun
Melee: Axtinguisher or Postal Pummeler

Demoman:
Primary: Grenade Launcher or Loch N Load
Secondary: Stickybomb Launcher or Scottish Resistance
Melee: Eyelander or Half Zatoichi or Persian Persuader

Heavy:
Primary: Minigun or Iron Kurtain
Secondary: Dalokohs Bar or Sandvich
Melee: Fists of Steel

Engineer:
Primary: Shotgun
Secondary: Wrangler
Melee: Jag

Medic:
Primary: Syringe Gun
Secondary: Medigun
Melee: Ubersaw

Sniper:
Primary: Sniper Rifle or AWPER Hand
Secondary: Jarate
Melee: Bushwacka

Spy:
Primary: Enforcer or Revolver
Secondary: Electro Sapper or Red Tape Recorder
Melee: Knife
Disguise Kit
Watch: Dead Ringer
SMASH bros Nov 27, 2012 @ 1:13am 
Originally posted by The Wild West Pyro:
The official wiki recommends:

It's all subjective and personal preference. All loadouts are situational.
Last edited by SMASH bros; Nov 27, 2012 @ 1:13am
Zyroxeon Nov 27, 2012 @ 4:48am 
Originally posted by PanColbolt:
Originally posted by The Wild West Pyro:
The official wiki recommends:

It's all subjective and personal preference. All loadouts are situational.
This.

please don't turn the wiki into smogon
InvisibleWater Nov 27, 2012 @ 5:06am 
Scout:

Offense: Soda Popper/Baby Face's Blaster, Bonk! Atomic Punch, Sandman
Defense: Force-a-nature, Pretty Boy's Pocket Pistol, stock Bat
Support: Special Delivery set

Soldier:

Offense: Airborne Armaments w/ Equalizer instead of Market Gardener
Defense: Beggar's Bazooka/Cow Mangler 5000, Righteous Bison/Shotgun, Half-Zatoichi
Support: Black Box, Battalion's Backup/Buff Banner, Disciplinary Action

Pyro:

Offense: Degreaser, Flare Gun/Reserve Shooter, Axtinguisher/Third Degree
Defense: stock Flamethrower/Phlogistinator, Shotgun, Homewrecker
Support: Backburner, Manmelter, Sharpened Volcano Fragment

Demoman:

Offense: stock Grenade Launcher, Stickybomb Launcher, Ullapool Caber
Defense: stock Grenade Launcher, Scottish Resistance, Scotsman's Skullcutter
Support: stock Grenade Launcher, Sticky Jumper, Ullapool Caber

Heavy:

Offense: stock Minigun, Sandvich, stock Fists
Defense: Brass Beast, Family Business, Fists of Steel
Support: Huo-long Heater, Sandvich, Eviction Notice

Engineer:

Offense: Frontier Justice, Pistol, Gunslinger
Defense: Widowmaker, Wrangler, Southern Hospitality
Support: Pomson 6000, Short Circuit/Wrangler, Gunslinger/Jag

Medic

Offense: Overdose/stock Syringe Gun, Kritzkrieg, Vita-Saw
Defense: Blutsauger, stock Medi Gun, Ubersaw
Support: Crusader's Crossbow, Quick-Fix/Kritzkrieg, Amputator

Sniper:

Offense: Huntsman, Jarate, Tribalman's Shiv/Bushwacka
Defense: Machina, SMG, Shahanshah
Support: Sydney Sleeper, Jarate, Bushwacka

Spy:

Offense: stock Revolver/L'Etranger, Dead Ringer, Big Earner
Defense: Ambassador, Cloak & Dagger, stock Knife
Support: Diamondback, Red-Tape Recorder, Cloak & Dagger, Spy-cicle
Last edited by InvisibleWater; Nov 27, 2012 @ 5:06am
Captain Toast Nov 27, 2012 @ 5:07am 
A few good loadouts here:

Soda Popper
Flying Gullentine
Sandman

Degreaser
Reserve Shooter
Postal pummler or Axtinguisher

Blackbox
Rightous Bison (Besides the damage to buildings, it's almost a straight upgrade)
Escape Plan

Ali Baba Wee's Booties/Bootlegger
Charge N Targe/ Splendid Screen (Depends if you prefer offensive power or more defensive)
Persian Persuader

Natasha
Sandvich or Chocolate
Fists

Pomsom 6000
Pistol
Southern Hospitality

Crusuader/s Crossbow
Medigun
Ubersaw

Sniper Rifle
Jarate
Bushwacka

Enforcer
Cloak and Dagger
Knife
Red Tape Recorder
InvisibleWater Nov 27, 2012 @ 5:11am 
Originally posted by PanColbolt:
Originally posted by The Wild West Pyro:
The official wiki recommends:

It's all subjective and personal preference. All loadouts are situational.

Please don't treat the wiki like it's Smogon. Both ours and Pokemon's communities are already horrible. We don't need them to become worse.
Drifzepeli Nov 27, 2012 @ 6:43pm 
Originally posted by InvisibleWater:
Please don't treat the wiki like it's Smogon. Both ours and Pokemon's communities are already horrible. We don't need them to become worse.
I like Smogon, though.

Thanks for the help guys.
[HLDJ] Golden Boy Nov 27, 2012 @ 6:53pm 
Originally posted by The Wild West Pyro:
The official wiki recommends:


Demoman:
Primary: Grenade Launcher or Loch N Load
Secondary: Stickybomb Launcher or Scottish Resistance

You don't say?
reality Nov 27, 2012 @ 10:25pm 
Originally posted by InvisibleWater:
Support: Diamondback, Red-Tape Recorder, Cloak & Dagger, Spy-cicle

Diamondback does not go well with the RTR.
reality Nov 27, 2012 @ 10:57pm 
Here are some items i'd reccomend

Scout-
Pretty boy's pocket pistol is amazing considering I usually use the default scattergun with plenty of ammo, the no fall damage for a very mobile class like scout is awesome, and the extra 15 health on top? Awesome. It can also be used to conteract the loss of 15 health from the sandman.

Soldier
Reserve shooter can be awesome for finishing off an enemy - one rocket to his feet, 3 shots while he's in the air, flawless victory.

Pyro
Don't use the shotgun.
Don't use the shotgun.
Don't use the shotgun.
Seriously, USE THE FLARE GUN. If you're having difficulty with it, try the scorch shot, which is also great for crowd control, but overall, use the flare gun.
The axtinguisher / mailbox thing is really the only melee weapon to use for the pyro. I mean, it makes sense. And does a hell of a lot of damage when you are able to use it.

Demo
All of these unlocks are heavily based on play style, so pick and choose. But sticky jumper + caber is SO MUCH FUN

Heavy
All the miniguns are pretty good depending on how you play, except the brass beast. Seriously, the speed is NOT worth the damage. You move slower than a melting stick of butter going down a hill. USE THE SANDWICH. okay. use it.

Engineer
All of the primaries have their own strengths, and there's not one I wouldn't reccomend, but people are going to hate you for using the pomson. Just sayin. The wrangler is only advised if you're going to be placing sentries in areas where soldiers/snipers/ect can shoot them without being in the sentries range. The wrangler is not an efficient spychecking tool, just give them a shot or two with a pistol/shotgun and they'll panick.
I personally use all of the wrenches for situational tactics. The southern hospitality is awesome if you're being hassled by a spy.
Zyroxeon Nov 28, 2012 @ 12:08am 
Smogon is great and all but they enforce the rules too much.
InvisibleWater Nov 28, 2012 @ 4:45pm 
Originally posted by Zyroxeon:
Smogon is great and all but they enforce the rules too much.

Agreed.
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