Hyper Mar 4, 2013 @ 9:40pm
No Good Engineers Nowadays?
Recently on TF2 i have been on many servers and i haven't actually seen extremly good engis not to be cocky but i think i'm a really great engi but it's dissapointing how rare nowadays that there are a few of engis :3

I seen a ton of engis with extremly fancy unusuals liek 2 brainiac hairpiece and that crap but they are actually ♥♥♥♥ at being a engi :/
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End Mar 4, 2013 @ 9:48pm 
I share your pain. I am usually engineer , I love engi and everything but I want to play different classes sometimes.

Usually no one plays engi so I am forced to just keep grinding away as engi lol .

As for engineers with skill they seem hard to come by , every once in a great while I happen upon a match with a few great engineers that work together .
Hyper Mar 4, 2013 @ 9:50pm 
:3 We could start the new ENGI REVOLUTION MWHAHAHAHAH
BlaqkAudio Mar 4, 2013 @ 9:59pm 
Originally posted by nw | HyperGuy9000™ 18D-Bday:
I seen a ton of engis with extremly fancy unusuals liek 2 brainiac hairpiece and that crap but they are actually ♥♥♥♥ at being a engi :/
lol^ That goes to show that hats do not show skill :D
the catdaddy Mar 5, 2013 @ 11:35am 
its difficult to find competent anythings in todays games. for example, no medics on any teams ever, i join the game late go medic, and the team is able to push and we win in no time. but all the time before anyone could have switched but no. they insisted on using 3 snipers on offense
destroy all fandoms Mar 5, 2013 @ 11:41am 
The other day I was playing on badlands, and half our team decided to go engie to defend the last point, crippling our offense. Well, as it turns out, they couldn't even do anything on defense, a spy capped our last point and none of their sentries could stop it because none of them covered the point. I left the server after that, it was absolutely pathetic.
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Hyper Mar 6, 2013 @ 5:21pm 
Originally posted by WWWWWVWW:
The other day I was playing on badlands, and half our team decided to go engie to defend the last point, crippling our offense. Well, as it turns out, they couldn't even do anything on defense, a spy capped our last point and none of their sentries could stop it because none of them covered the point. I left the server after that, it was absolutely pathetic.
The pain to see so much engineers yet they lost to a single spy ................ this is what im talking about no good engis now a days :(
Brian Mar 6, 2013 @ 6:15pm 
There's not much of a high skill ceiling for an Engineer. Usually a decent Engineer (one that can find a good sentry spot, helps other Engineers build, etc.) isn't much different than a pro Engineer, because really, what other things can you do as Engineer?

A good Soldier knows different ways of rocket jumping, knows how to airshot and all that. A good medic knows when to pop, who to heal, so on and so forth.

What does a good Engineer have? Maybe a better sentry location? But it's not much different than an alright sentry position. Maybe he knows how to sentry jump? But really, who needs that? That's like knowing how to shoot your needles as a Medic, but who needs to know that? Sure, it might come in handy, but it really isn't all that important as building uber and knowing when to use it.
Maybe the Engineer knows how to aim his shotgun? But you really shouldn't be using your shotgun as you already have a sentry (and you really should have teammates to help you with spies). Maybe if you have crits with your Frontier Justice, but then again, it's not too important (unless you are a battle Engy) because you should be building another sentry.

Tl;dr
There is a big difference between a bad Engy and a decent Engy, but not a good one and a professional one. You really should be happy about just having an Engineer who knows what he's doing than anything else. :P
Major Havoc Mar 6, 2013 @ 6:35pm 
I often play as an Engineer and one of my few good qualities is to place the Dispenser where it can help other players instead of right near my Sentry.
Element Mar 6, 2013 @ 8:51pm 
One time I played on a 2fort server with 4 engies. There was not a single sentry in our base. In fact, I'm not sure if any of them actually set up any buildings.
Hyper Mar 6, 2013 @ 8:52pm 
Originally posted by Brian:
There's not much of a high skill ceiling for an Engineer. Usually a decent Engineer (one that can find a good sentry spot, helps other Engineers build, etc.) isn't much different than a pro Engineer, because really, what other things can you do as Engineer?

A good Soldier knows different ways of rocket jumping, knows how to airshot and all that. A good medic knows when to pop, who to heal, so on and so forth.

What does a good Engineer have? Maybe a better sentry location? But it's not much different than an alright sentry position. Maybe he knows how to sentry jump? But really, who needs that? That's like knowing how to shoot your needles as a Medic, but who needs to know that? Sure, it might come in handy, but it really isn't all that important as building uber and knowing when to use it.
Maybe the Engineer knows how to aim his shotgun? But you really shouldn't be using your shotgun as you already have a sentry (and you really should have teammates to help you with spies). Maybe if you have crits with your Frontier Justice, but then again, it's not too important (unless you are a battle Engy) because you should be building another sentry.

Tl;dr
There is a big difference between a bad Engy and a decent Engy, but not a good one and a professional one. You really should be happy about just having an Engineer who knows what he's doing than anything else. :P
Unless you do competitive tf2 like i do xD then you will see really good engineers :3 and i mean rly good :3
Smugleaf Mar 6, 2013 @ 9:02pm 
This doesn't apply to just engineers. For the most part, it's usually rare to find someone good as any class. You'll only be able to find good players if you find a good server with decent regulars or play competitively.
Davis2110 Mar 6, 2013 @ 9:26pm 
in my book, your a good engy if you can spin your teleporter around
FrozenFirebug Mar 6, 2013 @ 9:41pm 
why do you need to be good to play engineer
Angel Mar 7, 2013 @ 1:01am 
I play a support engineer, what I mean by that is this.

I only play engineer when there are other engineers. I use gunslinger, pomson, and pistol.
I set up mini-sentries when I really need some back-up, but I mostly use my pomson and pistol.
When I see an engineer building stuff, I help him tend to his stuff by helping him upgrade and repair with my gunslinger, well I fight with my weapons and set mini-sentries, also dealing some falcon punches with the gunslinger.

If it is needed, and no engineers will do it, I will make teleporters and dispensers for those times.

I consider myself a good engineer in that sense, but when I go normal engineer with jag, I die to spies easy.
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100% Recycled Awesome Mar 7, 2013 @ 2:03am 
Originally posted by Brian:
There's not much of a high skill ceiling for an Engineer

No. There is a massive gap between a decent engineer and an engineer that will destroy everyone.

Learning how to sentry jump while grabbing your sentry will turn an engineer into a death machine. I'm having trouble finding the youtube video of the guy on last map Thunder Mountain who sentry grabbed jumped on to roof over the last point, set up his level 3 right over the point and proceeded to bascically lock down a huge area of the map from Red. Guy was total pro. He later dropped a dispenser and tele and he got demos up there spamming right outside of Red spawn with pipes and stickies.

But it does seem that sentry jumping is pretty rare these days.

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