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[Poke☆] Tommy (Zabanován) 26. úno. 2013 v 3.16 dop.
underrated and overrated weapoms
Winger: I like it because it looks better and even though it has a few seconds of damage, they can be a few torturing seconds
Righteous bison: If your a good aim with amazing timing it could zap an entire group of enemies
Manmelter: almost a direct upgrade fo the flaregun, and what people complain about is stupid, so they dont complain about the eyelander and HHHT havinng no random crits, but when this great weapon comes they hate it. GOOOD JOB COMMUNITY!
Backscratcher:STRONG, thats all i will say
Bootlegger and Ali baba's wee booties: i love medival and i love this weapon, IT'S FREAKING INTEDEDFOR MEDIVAL, WHY DO YOU THINK IT IS CALLED 1001 DEMOKNIGHTS! BETTER HAVE A WEAPON THAN NONE! AND YOU CAN SURVIVE AN EYELADER, HHHT, NESSIES IRON NINE, PERSIAN PUERUADER, AND CLAIDMEH MOUR CRITICAL HIT WITH THIS!
Scottman's Scullcutter: ITS LIKE THE 4th MOST POWERFUL WEAPON! 78 damage on normal hit, and instant kill for all but the heavy on a crit! YES YOU NEED A SHIELD TO MAKE IT GOOD BUT PEOPLE DONT DO THAT AND COMPLAIN!
Crusader's Crossbow: GREAT, its a crazily powered crossbow that makes the medic a force to recon with, and ITS A CROSSBOW FROM THE 1400s OF COURSE IT HAS A SMALLER CLIP AND RESERVE!!

OVERRATED

Shortstop: OMFG how is this good? ITS A PITFIFUL GUN DAMAGE WISE AND GUESS WHAT? IT HAS A SMALLER CLIP SIZE!
Degreaser: 2 words of an acutally good weapon, RESERVE SHOOTER
Headless Horseman's Headtaker or Eyelander: i give this one mercy, it is not as good as people say, I <3 my scottmans scullcutter and sold my eyelander, and why does everyone go out of there way of killing a good weapon to make a meh reskin?! Use the weapon to make a backscratcher!
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|Gent| Mc Mentlegen 26. úno. 2013 v 3.32 dop. 
Even though I agree with you an some points, I do have to ask you to
1) maybe format the layout. It's kinda hard to keep track, especially due to caps
2) find better arguments. Srsly, the crusaders crossbow might be based on crossbows for the 15th century, however, that mere fact doesn't make it better. A good weapon (in a game) should be a considerable option, no matter if it's based on a candy cane or on a real life sniper rifle. Same thing applies to many other arguments. A new weapon shouldn't be made for a special gamemode, I even think it's safe to say that no weapon was designed for one gamemode.
Batmagoo 26. úno. 2013 v 3.38 dop. 
The only line that makes sense is the bison one.
The other ones are just stupid.
and yes, manmelter is terribly situanetional, getting crits with the flare gun is much more easier
[Poke☆] Tommy (Zabanován) 26. úno. 2013 v 3.50 dop. 
Gent mc mentlegen původně napsal:
Even though I agree with you an some points, I do have to ask you to
1) maybe format the layout. It's kinda hard to keep track, especially due to caps
2) find better arguments. Srsly, the crusaders crossbow might be based on crossbows for the 15th century, however, that mere fact doesn't make it better. A good weapon (in a game) should be a considerable option, no matter if it's based on a candy cane or on a real life sniper rifle. Same thing applies to many other arguments. A new weapon shouldn't be made for a special gamemode, I even think it's safe to say that no weapon was designed for one gamemode.
then what primary weapon would you have on deegroot eep
Batmagoo 26. úno. 2013 v 4.27 dop. 
kaglaw původně napsal:
Gent mc mentlegen původně napsal:
Even though I agree with you an some points, I do have to ask you to
1) maybe format the layout. It's kinda hard to keep track, especially due to caps
2) find better arguments. Srsly, the crusaders crossbow might be based on crossbows for the 15th century, however, that mere fact doesn't make it better. A good weapon (in a game) should be a considerable option, no matter if it's based on a candy cane or on a real life sniper rifle. Same thing applies to many other arguments. A new weapon shouldn't be made for a special gamemode, I even think it's safe to say that no weapon was designed for one gamemode.
then what primary weapon would you have on deegroot eep

You can't make a "weapon" only for a gimmick play mode like medieval...
The grenade launcher is better in all the other modes..
|Gent| Mc Mentlegen 26. úno. 2013 v 7.33 dop. 
kaglaw původně napsal:
Gent mc mentlegen původně napsal:
Even though I agree with you an some points, I do have to ask you to
1) maybe format the layout. It's kinda hard to keep track, especially due to caps
2) find better arguments. Srsly, the crusaders crossbow might be based on crossbows for the 15th century, however, that mere fact doesn't make it better. A good weapon (in a game) should be a considerable option, no matter if it's based on a candy cane or on a real life sniper rifle. Same thing applies to many other arguments. A new weapon shouldn't be made for a special gamemode, I even think it's safe to say that no weapon was designed for one gamemode.
then what primary weapon would you have on deegroot eep

I don't think you understood my comment, maybe you should read it again. I'm not saying the bootlegger is bad in medieval mode, I said it's not "made for medieval mode". As batmagoo pointed out, you can't create a weapon only for a gamemode like medieval, which has only one map.
Waluigi 26. úno. 2013 v 8.15 dop. 
I pretty much agree with you on all of these except the Man Melter. I think the Flare Gun is much better because it's a lot easier to get crits with the Flare Gun (unless of course using the Phlogistinator). Also 2 of the stats for the Manmelter are practically lies which is pretty bad.
Zeke Dunbar, Double Agent 26. úno. 2013 v 9.49 dop. 
The Winger is cool, but I LOVE milk. Bison is eh. It can zap a crowd and hit multiple times and everything, but I've just found the Rocket Launcher + shotgun to be more reliable. I've never had a time where the Man Melter could have come in handy. I like the Backscratcher. I only use the Wee Booties when I'm demoknighting, which is never on DeGroot Keep. Scottsman's Skullcutter is another eh. It's strong and everything but the speed and health bonus of the Eyelander is so much better IMO. I love the crossbow, especially with the set.
man door hand hook car door 26. úno. 2013 v 10.02 dop. 
everybody says that the detonator and flaregun are good but the detonator and flaregun are actually horrible
DeadPixel 26. úno. 2013 v 10.04 dop. 
everybody says that the detonator and flaregun are good but the detonator and flaregun are actually horrible
The Flare gun IS good

Loch n Load is kind of over looked does high damage and a good aim means taking down all classes with 2-3 shots. The loch is also easier to aim the stock just seems hard to hit anything so I just resort to spamming.
Zeke Dunbar, Double Agent 26. úno. 2013 v 10.22 dop. 
;864960354329120265 původně napsal:
everybody says that the detonator and flaregun are good but the detonator and flaregun are actually horrible

I really don't have any idea why you think the flare gun is horrible. I'm not overly fond of The Detonator, but it's still pretty good. IMO flare gun is the best Pyro secondary.
Nefnoj 26. úno. 2013 v 10.32 dop. 
I used to think that weapons would be amazing upon release, but then Valve would slowly downgrade them, the Cow Mangler, Backburner, and Shortstop being the most obvious examples... But then I used them with Mann vs. Machine... Not as bad as they once were!
Zeke Dunbar, Double Agent 26. úno. 2013 v 10.35 dop. 
Nefnoj původně napsal:
I used to think that weapons would be amazing upon release, but then Valve would slowly downgrade them, the Cow Mangler, Backburner, and Shortstop being the most obvious examples... But then I used them with Mann vs. Machine... Not as bad as they once were!

Cow Mangler is still okay-ish, as long as you don't need to be taking out sentries. Backburner should not be a thing, but it's good for MvM. Shortstop is still pretty good.
[Poke☆] Tommy (Zabanován) 26. úno. 2013 v 2.24 odp. 
2spooky4me původně napsal:
I pretty much agree with you on all of these except the Man Melter. I think the Flare Gun is much better because it's a lot easier to get crits with the Flare Gun (unless of course using the Phlogistinator). Also 2 of the stats for the Manmelter are practically lies which is pretty bad.
I FREAKING HATE THE FLARE GUN AND THE STATS DONT LIE!
[Poke☆] Tommy (Zabanován) 26. úno. 2013 v 2.26 odp. 
Mister Fister! původně napsal:
The Winger is cool, but I LOVE milk. Bison is eh. It can zap a crowd and hit multiple times and everything, but I've just found the Rocket Launcher + shotgun to be more reliable. I've never had a time where the Man Melter could have come in handy. I like the Backscratcher. I only use the Wee Booties when I'm demoknighting, which is never on DeGroot Keep. Scottsman's Skullcutter is another eh. It's strong and everything but the speed and health bonus of the Eyelander is so much better IMO. I love the crossbow, especially with the set.
dont worry the eyelander is going in the overrated list, but i dont hate it as NEAR as much as the damn shortstop
Zeke Dunbar, Double Agent 26. úno. 2013 v 2.33 odp. 
kaglaw původně napsal:
2spooky4me původně napsal:
I pretty much agree with you on all of these except the Man Melter. I think the Flare Gun is much better because it's a lot easier to get crits with the Flare Gun (unless of course using the Phlogistinator). Also 2 of the stats for the Manmelter are practically lies which is pretty bad.
I FREAKING HATE THE FLARE GUN AND THE STATS DONT LIE!

How could you hate the flare gun?
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