Magickus (banned) Feb 21, 2013 @ 10:49am
RTR is beyond broken
Seriously, you cannot argue that an instant downgrade from a level 3 to a lvl 2 sentry is not broken. You simply cannot.

Please fix this weapon ASAP Valve
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Ice Feb 21, 2013 @ 11:41am 
Valve wont fix it dont be rediculas
20 Sentry Fox Feb 21, 2013 @ 12:18pm 
Downgrading buildings is one of these concepts that can only either be balanced or useful.

Until undoing the damage caused by downgrading does not take the equal amount of metal the damage caused by a regular Sapper it will be broken.
And the second it does it becomes pointless.

Yup.
Not much one could do here.





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Shadowlord90 (Ryder) Feb 21, 2013 @ 12:35pm 
The primary issue is the patch itself, the Red Tape Recorder has always been broken, ever since it first came out.

When it was first released, it could cause major glitches with the engine, where if an engineer destroyed it, the Sentry would keep it's level 3 health as Level 1 and would keep stacking it's health until eventually it was next to impossible to destroy. It would also effect map logic, acting like the Sentry was still there after it got destroyed with this glitch active.

Than, they patched it to fix these major issues, and the result was a weapon that was meant to take 3 Seconds to downgrade a building, but somehow Valve still messed this up, and instead made it downgrade buildings in 1.7 seconds, thereby rendering it able to downgrade a fully leveled up Sentry from 3 to 1 IN 3 Seconds, as apposed to leveling it down in a max of 6 seconds, 3 for each level. As for a dispenser, it's Downgraded in half a second. Teleporters though, I don't think it even works on them.

The Red Tape Recorder is also one of the few banned weapons by Valve (One other being the Enforcer).
ahaha Feb 21, 2013 @ 12:39pm 
Originally posted by xG Shadowlord90:
The Red Tape Recorder is also one of the few banned weapons by Valve (One other being the Enforcer).

wait what
since when has Valve banned anything
tOpmOunter Feb 21, 2013 @ 12:40pm 
The downgrades are definitely too rapid.
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