Ice Feb 8, 2013 @ 4:20am
Natasha crutch
so i was watching tf2 youtube videos and someone in the comments said natasha is a crutch
what do you think?
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Steve Killbane Feb 8, 2013 @ 4:44am 
I don't really think it's that great. I mean, I guess it's all right, and I guess it's pretty good against scouts.
Dick Whiskey Feb 8, 2013 @ 5:45am 
I don't use Natasha unless there's already a Heavy on the team, preferably one that's using the stock minigun. it's not a good minigun, but its a good 'support' weapon.
Slutty McBiatch Feb 8, 2013 @ 6:35am 
Its fantastic as a Ambush-Suport weapon.
FuzZFace Feb 8, 2013 @ 6:50am 
its a minigun. A crutch is a medical aid.
2↓st Sentry Gentleman Feb 8, 2013 @ 7:22am 
I don't like it.

In my opinion, taking away control from the recieving party as an integral part of combat is a horrible idea in terms of skill indexing.

And putting slowdown on-hit on a lag-compensated, rapid-firing [40 bullets/sec] hitscan weapon, read: a weapon that can virtually hit you around a corner unless your ping does not exceed a one digit number, does not strike me as the smartest idea when it comes to game-design either.
Steve Killbane Feb 8, 2013 @ 7:23am 
Originally posted by FuzzFace:
its a minigun. A crutch is a medical aid.
You win.
Numel! Feb 8, 2013 @ 7:37am 
If you die from a stock minigun, you will die from natashca. I personally prefer nat because it confuses the enemy. I also like the FaN, these weapons are amazing if you know how to stun an enemy with slowdowns, knockback, etc. As scout, I drink criticola to go faster, qucikly hit a enemy with the fan o war, then take out the FaN and blow them away. If that doesn't kill them, either the mark for death will, or I will hit them with the FaN again. The only thing I dislike about natasha is that you lose in heavy duels
Ice Feb 8, 2013 @ 7:59am 
Originally posted by FuzzFace:
its a minigun. A crutch is a medical aid.
Please no more comments like this, thanks
templar [pc under repair] Feb 8, 2013 @ 8:01am 
It's not a crutch, in fact it's pretty much inferior to the stock minigun in all respects. I don't think I've equipped it once outside of Randomizer mode.

also Ice I think I accidentally removed you from my friends list or something :S
Zyroxeon Feb 8, 2013 @ 8:07am 
>person's comment on youtube

op why
CCPolar #gogermany Feb 8, 2013 @ 8:10am 
Natascha is actually very helpful in MvM, for super scouts and crap,
Evil Engine #9 Feb 8, 2013 @ 8:12am 
I don't see how anyone can think its a crutch, you lose quite a bit of damage just for slowing stuff down. Its not as good as stock but its still a decent weapon, (I found it only helpful for support and defense but it can work on offense if you use it right)
If you like using it then go ahead and use it.
Last edited by Evil Engine #9; Feb 8, 2013 @ 8:14am
ownomics Feb 8, 2013 @ 8:23am 
No.
Phlogistinator is a crutch. "Battle Medic" is a crutch. Enforcer, Spycicle and Deadringer are all '"crutches" when used in the same loadout.

Anything that is OP or quite powerful and which deducts from your viability as a supporting member of your team is a crutch weapon. A ridiculously OP/very easy to play loadout is a crutch loadout since it turns bad players into good or tolerably good ones in a snap, which also generally keeps you from learning the more intricate in 'n' outs of your class.
Last edited by ownomics; Feb 8, 2013 @ 8:24am
Apple Plum Banana Face Feb 8, 2013 @ 9:00am 
Originally posted by ownomics:
No.
Phlogistinator is a crutch. "Battle Medic" is a crutch. Enforcer, Spycicle and Deadringer are all '"crutches" when used in the same loadout.
I wouldn't say battle medic is a crutch, as it's actually harder to pull off than other approaches for Medic. Pocketing, on the other hand...
Last edited by Apple Plum Banana Face; Feb 8, 2013 @ 9:01am
tangram § QEMU-KVM domain Feb 8, 2013 @ 9:59am 
Originally posted by CCPolar:
Natascha is actually very helpful in MvM, for super scouts and crap,

Not really, it is quite crappy in MVM. :)

In MVM Brass Beast and Mini-Gun are leagues apart - you want to deal damage while sucking ammo from dispenser and latter on Rage is the upgrade to get if having problems with big robots (not just big scouts).
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