Tim Timsen (Banned) Jan 26, 2013 @ 7:46am
If someone offered you a valuable item for a 'bad' one...
Would you do the trade without any hesitation or would you tell them they're doing it wrong?

Example: They offer a key for a normal weapon.

I'd just ask if they're serious about it and if they say Yes I'd do the trade, because I think it's not my duty to tell people about the value of items. If they are too lazy to do some research, then it's their loss and fault, not mine.

Yes, I'm an ♥♥♥, trade deal with it.
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cru Jan 26, 2013 @ 7:48am 
YES.
Loser Jan 26, 2013 @ 7:49am 
I have told people in the past what the item is actually worth and told them that if they really want the weapon I will trade but they could get better offers.
Apple Plum Banana Face Jan 26, 2013 @ 7:50am 
It's their fault for not price checking.
Gangrene Toe Loss Jan 26, 2013 @ 7:54am 
One on hand, I'd go along with it, solely because they should've done their research.
On the other, I'd tell them it's true value because I'm not a ♥♥♥♥♥♥y scammer.
Octavia Jan 26, 2013 @ 7:54am 
Originally posted by Tim Timsen:
I'd just ask if they're serious about it and if they say Yes I'd do the trade, because I think it's not my duty to tell people about the value of items. If they are too lazy to do some research, then it's their loss and fault, not mine.

I'd do the same. I had someone trade me a Strange Detonator with a Posthumous kill part attached and a Strange Conniver's Kunai for my Vintage Sandvich; he wasn't complaining, nor was I. I've had someone trade a Strange Degreaser to me for a Reclaimed, along with a very other Strange weapons, most of which were of superior value.

If someone doesn't inform themselves before trading, they accept the fact that they can get sharked; I don't deliberately shark people, nor do I trade for profit, but if someone's going to offer me something for below the market price, well, I shan't stop them. It's a free-market economy with minimal regulations, so as long as I don't break the rules, I don't see the problem; people may say I'm lacking morals, but it's pointless to try and take a moral high-ground here.

If a store offers a bag of chips for twenty dollars and some idiot buys it when the store next door offers it for two dollars, assuming the currency is the same, the idiot doesn't deserve any sympathy; if someone is rash, I'm going to take advantage of it. Anyone who contests that point is really just taking a moral high-ground, and that's an opinion; while this may be an opinion as well, the whole free-market economic system has no restrictions beyond the legitimate conduct of a business, so assuming nobody lies, scams or does something else that breaks rules, the trade is legitimate and perfectly fine.

Scamming and sharking are two different terms, Crit; scamming involves lies and misleading, while sharking involves taking advantage of someone's lack of knowledge without misleading them or telling blatant lies. Sharking is perfectly fine, while scamming is not.
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2↓st Sentry Gentleman Jan 26, 2013 @ 7:56am 
I'll be honest, I'd most probably take it.

On the other hand, I don't care if I overpay by ~1 key for some item I want either; on the day of the Pyrovision I remember trading away a hat for a Sidney Sleeper because I wanted to craft the Hitman's Heatmaker and I don't regret it.

Generally, I only ever trade if I get the chance to swap an item I don't want for an item I do want and so far that worked out pretty well.
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poptarts Jan 26, 2013 @ 7:58am 
I'd tell them the real price.
Greed Jan 26, 2013 @ 8:02am 
Originally posted by The Crit-Magnet Brony:
One on hand, I'd go along with it, solely because they should've done their research.
On the other, I'd tell them it's true value because I'm not a ♥♥♥♥♥♥y scammer.
how is it scaming if they think the item is worth less and you never encuraged that idea, i mean, to some items are items and don't even have a set price. i mean im willing give better items in trades sometimes to be nice, not many people really seem to mind or tell me what they are worth, some do and i tell them i'm being nice. if it's like an unush for something really cheap, i can understand that a as a scam if you don't tell them it's worth more (and some gen items)
Gangrene Toe Loss Jan 26, 2013 @ 8:24am 
Regardless, I don't think it's something I'd ever do. I have to have some sympathy for idiots that have never heard of Backpack or Spreadsheet.

Putting aside exact definition, Scamming and Sharking are both equally frowned upon(?) in my eyes.
abs Jan 26, 2013 @ 8:25am 
Tell real price or ask about it. If they still want, then go for it.
Although i never got any over expensive offer, i'm fine with that.
ToastTheMoast Jan 26, 2013 @ 8:32am 
If the offer like a buds or something than hell no, but if they offer something like a key then its not the end of the world.

I think I would draw the line on stuff worth more than 2 keys.
Greed Jan 26, 2013 @ 8:34am 
Originally posted by The Crit-Magnet Brony:
Regardless, I don't think it's something I'd ever do. I have to have some sympathy for idiots that have never heard of Backpack or Spreadsheet.

Putting aside exact definition, Scamming and Sharking are both equally frowned upon(?) in my eyes.
yeah, im not a big fan of them too, but unknowing players selling their stuff isn't my fualt,best trade i've got was 3 good gen items for 2 old hats (fadora, medimask)
Das Kätzchen Jan 26, 2013 @ 8:42am 
I'm usually an opportunistic jerk when it comes to trading and would probably say yes. The only time I would say no is if I felt nice, or if it was obscene in the disparity between items (i.e. Unusual for weapon).
Bluebom-omb Jan 26, 2013 @ 8:54am 
if someone insists on doing a trade even after getting told its worth more I'd take the trade, unless its something like a bud.
Renomaki Jan 26, 2013 @ 9:01am 
I myself craft hats and sell them cheap, either for one refined or, if no one is buying it, 2 reclaimed and one scrap. Hell, I even sold a key for 3.0 instead of 3.44.

When I sell items, I sell them cheap to ease up my backpack. Hell, because of the trade system, I found a better way to make scrap: Just gather up some stock and then go and find people willing to buy a weapon for one scrap a gun. In a way, it's kinda crazy to give up all that scrap you were saving up just to buy a few weapons that you'll get sooner or later as a drop, but in another way, it IS easier and faster (and cheaper) to buy a gun for one scrap than to pay for it with real money or wait a month for that weapon you want to drop.

Some people really don't understand that selling really HIGH for items, no matter what it is, isn't going to get anyone to buy it. You increase the odds of selling if you sell slightly lower than it's worth.

As for the topic's question, I guess I'll be honest and admit that I suppose I would take it. After all, an offer is an offer. If they agree with the deal, than so be it. If not, we haggle until an agreement is made.
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