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Clive 28 Απρ, 2013 @ 3:45μμ
I just got a brilliant idea
what if there was a spy sapper that dose not sap it instends turns the building into a friendily building for example: a sentry shoots the foes, a despensier heals your team, a teleporter that your team can use!
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Icehat 28 Απρ, 2013 @ 3:46μμ 
No, that would be overpowered. Think of the spawnkilling some spies could do with that.
Sentient_Toaster 28 Απρ, 2013 @ 3:52μμ 
No. It's been suggested many, many times before and rejected because it's massively overpowered. People who suggest it should be targeted and killed by all sentries regardless of who built them.
Paraaafjldkfajl whatever 28 Απρ, 2013 @ 4:40μμ 
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Sentient_Toaster:
No. It's been suggested many, many times before and rejected because it's massively overpowered. People who suggest it should be targeted and killed by all sentries regardless of who built them.
Well, I had contemplated that idea before, but then again, there's really no way to balance that to TF2.

To OP: think it like this: theres a huge sentry nest (large group of sentries made by multiple engies). Then a spy suddenly comes by and turns that sentry nest to their team, the sentry nest would suddenly attack the opposite team, and that team, say, wouldn't have any class that would be able to get rid of that sentry nest, completely ruining the game.

I thought of it before and thought that maybe it works like the red tape recorder. It turns the sentry way back to lvl. 1 and it then it turns into a friendly sentry that can't be upgraded unless there's an engie on the team. So it would be like the RDR, except slower.
ReBoot 28 Απρ, 2013 @ 4:47μμ 
Fortress Forever has such a thing.
Ryan. 28 Απρ, 2013 @ 4:49μμ 
I think that it would be way too overpowered. Maybe have it turn friendly for a few seconds? I don't know...
Funboyfun23 28 Απρ, 2013 @ 5:07μμ 
How about you make a spy sapper and post it in the workshop instead of posting your ideas on the discussions.. Also people are acting like this is too overpowered. I would understand if it was like a two second sapper take down but any enginneer that doesnt baby sit their sentry or walks too far away from it deservers for it to backfire on them. Perhappes a longer spy sap time so that would give an engineer a chance to return to it and kill the sapper.
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/<«≤◄←º⌂º→►≥»>\ (Αποκλεισμένος) 28 Απρ, 2013 @ 8:31μμ 
it should also have on kill: turns victim to ice. there totally balanced
Adjutant SteemingBullet 28 Απρ, 2013 @ 9:05μμ 
To make it balanced, here is what I'd suggest
- firing speed, ammo capacity, turn rate, health, and damage is reduced by 50%
- can only control one building at a time
- reverts back if spy leaves the firing range or dies
- can still be removed like a Sapper
- does no building damage
- doing so removes disguise
- can not be refilled or repaired by friendly engineers
The item would still be cheap, but it would seem a bit more balanced IMO
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Funboyfun23 28 Απρ, 2013 @ 11:01μμ 
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Adjutant SteemingBullet:
To make it balanced, here is what I'd suggest
- firing speed, ammo capacity, turn rate, health, and damage is reduced by 50%
- can only control one building at a time
- reverts back if spy leaves the firing range or dies
- can still be removed like a Sapper
- does no building damage
- doing so removes disguise
- can not be refilled or repaired by friendly engineers
The item would still be cheap, but it would seem a bit more balanced IMO

Yea i dont see why people are saying its cheap.
paperchaos 28 Απρ, 2013 @ 11:06μμ 
to meny people would troll with it though ultimately your going to have alot of problems with trolling.

i think a better idea for a sapper would be if it took ammo out of the sentry but it has redused sapper damage so the engie would have to waste more metal
Funboyfun23 28 Απρ, 2013 @ 11:12μμ 
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από paperchaos:
to meny people would troll with it though ultimately your going to have alot of problems with trolling.

i think a better idea for a sapper would be if it took ammo out of the sentry but it has redused sapper damage so the engie would have to waste more metal
But they could make it so its harder to troll
Pagemaster 28 Απρ, 2013 @ 11:26μμ 
No.
Springely #GammaLabs 28 Απρ, 2013 @ 11:47μμ 
That would be kind of overpowered...

It's ok though, we'll just add no random critical hit.
Clive 29 Απρ, 2013 @ 2:05μμ 
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Funboyfun23:
How about you make a spy sapper and post it in the workshop instead of posting your ideas on the discussions.. Also people are acting like this is too overpowered. I would understand if it was like a two second sapper take down but any enginneer that doesnt baby sit their sentry or walks too far away from it deservers for it to backfire on them. Perhappes a longer spy sap time so that would give an engineer a chance to return to it and kill the sapper. [I don't know how to write code]
Funboyfun23 29 Απρ, 2013 @ 2:28μμ 
@ Shadow

I actually do know how to code, coincidentally I'm in my IT class as I'm responding to you as I'm coding my Space Invaders game. It was more of a suggestion.

(Also the school browsers suck and it wont let me post your comment in my reply).

Have a nice day.
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