What's your guy's opinion on sharking?

[Power Glover]

Title Says it pretty, have a friend who does it, was wondering what you guys thought.

[100% Recycled Awesome]

I take it your friend also has no problem selling financial scams to anyone else?

[Nano Fox]

Is funneh till happens to you. Then you cry and wonder why you aren't king of trader world or whatever.

[Power Glover]

lol

[templar]

it's a way for people who have no respect for others to make easy profit

(i'm not one of those people btw)

[Octavia]

Business wise? It technically isn't against the rules, and if you get down to it, all that sharking really is tends to be seeking out people who don't know prices of items and offering what seems to be a decent price to them, but in reality isn't. I see some similarities between those who 'high-ball' and 'low-ball' prices, since both are asking prices that aren't even close to the actual value, but I believe sharks will seek out their victims deliberately; although there seems to be some issues with that, since I've been told that apparently if one were to have someone offer an Unusual and a 'shark' were to ask them what they wanted, and they suggested a low price, then agreeing to that would make one a 'shark', which is a tad... Silly, since it's essentially trusting the word of someone who benefits from you being uninformed.

Personally? While I find it morally acceptable in the realm of business, that's solely because it abides by the rules; otherwise, it's essentially a tactic that takes advantage of the ill-informed the vast majority of the time. I don't personally shark, but if someone offers me a good price I take it, even if it's massively one sided; sharking abides by the rules of the game, and until they change, it's a perfectly viable tactic if one doesn't oppose it with their personal morals.

[Tolna]

Sad that people stoop so low to make a profit but it's technically fair.

In the end, you are the one who determines the price. I sold a Vintage Houndog for a normal Hustlers Halmark, I technically got "sharked" but I dislike the houndog as a hat and personally value it very low, I knew the risk and traded a hat I dislike for a hat I love!

[A Very Festive Scarecrow]

I personally have never been sparked, I once had a guy offer a quick fix for my high five when I first became premium, but I new that wasn't right. My brother has gotten sharked before multiple times, he'll tell me about his trades and I'll listen and go "you got scammed, you could have gotten a lot more for that" but he just says oh well, at least he got stuff he liked. So if the person who got sharked is happy with what they got, then it doesn't bother me.
I don't shark by the way, I'll go for low prices, but if they ask for too little, I'll put up more to make it a bit fair while still getting a nice price

[HandsomeGoat]

Ive Been sharked out of two good hats it's just wronge but unfortunatly i dont think you can get banned for Sharking.

[high level misandrist]

I don't think sharling is nice, however, I don't think it's that bad either. It's highly unprobable that you'll ever loose a valuable item, since you need to be an experienced player to obtain one of those (on the other hand, you might just be a spoiled brat :D). Also, once you've been sharked, you'll learn to check prices before trading, which might save you from actually loosing a noteworthy sum of money. I've traded away my first hat for 3 weapons. Of course I was pissed when I first learned about that, but I've cheched the item prices ever since.

I personally don't think sharking is the right thing to do, but that doesn't stop me from doing it myself sometimes. It really depends on my mood, the item I might get and the other person's character. I've traded my silver bk weapon for a gold one, when the guy I traded with messaged me the next day, asking POLITELY if he could get his item back (or items which are worth as much as the price difference), I didn't hesitate to give him quite an few hats and miscs. However, when someone trades me without saying anything and just puts a few weapons in his offerings box, I don't feel bad if I check his backpack and shark him (if he owns any hats/miscs)

[Batmagoo]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από AuETolna:

Sad that people stoop so low to make a profit but it's technically fair.

In the end, you are the one who determines the price. I sold a Vintage Houndog for a normal Hustlers Halmark, I technically got "sharked" but I dislike the houndog as a hat and personally value it very low, I knew the risk and traded a hat I dislike for a hat I love!

Yeah true, i gave away my dirty familiar fez for a dirty rather festive tree because I think it's friggin' hilarious!

Anyway it was an 0.33/0.66 price difference so no big deal :P

[Obi-Wan Cannoli]

People who lie about the value of their items are just a different kind of turd from people who scam outright.

[JarateKing (very rusty)]

If it's trading dota 2 for a bud to a guy who hasn't played tf2 since buds came out, then it's pretty bad. If it's just getting a 1.66 hat from a 1.33 hat then that's how trading normally works. It depends on the degree.

[Jethro Q.Walrustitty]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Lost mc mentlegen:

I don't think sharling is nice, however, I don't think it's that bad either. It's highly unprobable that you'll ever loose a valuable item, since you need to be an experienced player to obtain one of those

Unless you meet 'Malay Tiger Propionat' within a few days of starting to play and he wants to buy your buds. Taught me one hell of a lesson about trading

[Octavia]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από {MGCH}Itsuki Koizumi:

People who lie about the value of their items are just a different kind of turd from people who scam outright.

Value isn't universal in a free-market economy; saying that an item has a directly defined value is silly, and too many traders make that mistake. If people 'lie' about value then you assume that there's a certain price, or price range, that items must be sold for, and that simply isn't the case with free trade; otherwise, it would fall under scamming.

I'm not saying sharking is morally acceptable, but you can't really lie about value since it's subjective; the worst someone could say is that others would be willing to pay a certain price, but in that case, he might as well be selling it to them so it's basic common-sense to not trust someone who tells such flimsy tales.

[templar]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Octavia:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από {MGCH}Itsuki Koizumi:

People who lie about the value of their items are just a different kind of turd from people who scam outright.

Value isn't universal in a free-market economy; saying that an item has a directly defined value is silly, and too many traders make that mistake. If people 'lie' about value then you assume that there's a certain price, or price range, that items must be sold for, and that simply isn't the case with free trade; otherwise, it would fall under scamming.

I'm not saying sharking is morally acceptable, but you can't really lie about value since it's subjective; the worst someone could say is that others would be willing to pay a certain price, but in that case, he might as well be selling it to them so it's basic common-sense to not trust someone who tells such flimsy tales.

Yes, it's possible to shark without explicitly lying, and item values are subjective to each person, but many sharks do in fact lie about the generally accepted market prices (if these didn't exist, there would be no point in sharking). Of course, doing no research on such things is inexcusable, but sharking still isn't something a trader who had any kind of respect for others would do.