theamericanalucard Apr 3, 2013 @ 4:21pm
CAN WE PLEASE GET A NERF ON THE DEMOKNIGHT CLASS?!
This has got to be one of the only things wrong with TF2 balance wise, the demoknight class is 400% worst than commando pro from MW2 ever wished to be.I was playing last night & a DemoNerd slid across the entire map of harvest & killed me at full health while i was using pyro & putting the flamethrower in his face. PLEASE VALVE NERF/BALANCE THIS CLASS, REDUCE THE SPEED or SOMETHING JUST DO SOMETHING TO STOP THIS DEMOKNIGHT VIRUS!
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EXPLOlolli - Go Grouvin! Apr 3, 2013 @ 4:22pm 
demoknights are good as they are MW nerd
bear Apr 3, 2013 @ 4:23pm 
NO MANGACHU_ WONT BE HAPPY
But seriously, its op. With turn scripts you can do a full 360, and then in one hit kill a medic with the guaranteed crit. Even if you hit them with the charge n targe, wait a half second and then swing the sword it kills them with the crit. Really stupid imo

twitch.tv/mangachu_ is a prime example of this
bear Apr 3, 2013 @ 4:23pm 
and stfu about cod or people won't take you seriously
Mxykikker Apr 3, 2013 @ 4:25pm 
I'm am not even sure if this guy is being serious with this demoknights are perfectly balanced.
EXPLOlolli - Go Grouvin! Apr 3, 2013 @ 4:25pm 
im just saying, in my oppinion its not op cause the demoknight doesnt have anything but 1 melee wep, no long range weps. if you remove the crits on the shields the demoknight will suck... just my oppinion
λ.w.t1998 Apr 3, 2013 @ 4:26pm 
How to counter a Demoknight:
Step 1: Take out gun
Step 2: Keep a good distance
Step 3: Move around so the knight will have a hard time hitting you
Step 4: Shoot the gun at the knight
Step 5:????
Step 6: Profit
EXPLOlolli - Go Grouvin! Apr 3, 2013 @ 4:27pm 
Originally posted by a.w.t1998:
How to counter a Demoknight:
Step 1: Take out gun
Step 2: Keep a good distance
Step 3: Move around so the knight will have a hard time hitting you
Step 4: Shoot the gun at the knight
Step 5:????
Step 6: Profit

that's what im saying. idk why they think it's op
Funboyfun23 Apr 3, 2013 @ 4:28pm 
NO THEY WONT BECAUSE TEH DEMOKNIGHT IS NOT AN OP CLASS. Okay I think I stop using caps here. An pyro can airblast him, a medic can backpettle and spam needles, a heavy can mow him down easily, a sniper can throw jarate at him and use the bushwaka and kill him in basically one hit, the spy can just cloak and run away, the scout can just use his running and jumping to an advantage and pick him off easily and the soldier can just dem rockets. Serisouly get better at the game and COD is not a validated reference here, ♥♥♥♥ off.
bear Apr 3, 2013 @ 4:33pm 
Originally posted by a.w.t1998:
How to counter a Demoknight:
Step 1: Take out gun
Step 2: Keep a good distance
Step 3: Move around so the knight will have a hard time hitting you
Step 4: Shoot the gun at the knight
Step 5:????
Step 6: Profit
http://www.twitch.tv/mangachu_/c/1967612
Tell that to this video. Is that fair and balanced? Watch ANY of mangachu_ or any other good demoknight's steams and you will immediatly see taht its totally op..

actually though, watch that video. Its insanity. Free medic pick? 100% critical chance? ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥
Das Kätzchen Apr 3, 2013 @ 4:36pm 
Originally posted by a.w.t1998:
How to counter a Demoknight:
Step 1: Take out gun
Step 2: Keep a good distance
Step 3: Move around so the knight will have a hard time hitting you
Step 4: Shoot the gun at the knight
Step 5:????
Step 6: Profit
HE'S A GENIUS!
TheGoodTheBadAndTheGibus (Banned) Apr 3, 2013 @ 4:37pm 
Really? I think demoman is UP. Just go degreaser-axtinguisher pyro, get an easy airblast ss they're charging puff them then you get full melee crits on them and the ability to push em around the air wherever you want.
That and anything from a heavy to a sentry gun or some experience as the scout will easily stop them in their tracks.

Originally posted by Bear-O-Dactyl #yolo #B>b.m.o.c:
and stfu about cod or people won't take you seriously
Also
1. You compared it to cod in the OP which is both irrelevant and hated on here
2. You have #yolo in your username
the_mad_magyar Apr 3, 2013 @ 4:47pm 
I am curious as to how the demoknight in the video was able to turn that much during his charge without having the Booties equipped. It seemed to be an extremeley well controlled turn. That being said, demoknights are fun to kill.
Last edited by the_mad_magyar; Apr 3, 2013 @ 4:49pm
J_ͣ_ͬ_ͣ_ͭ_ͤ King HUDs 8) Apr 3, 2013 @ 4:47pm 
Stock demoman is the most capable class at area control, destroying sentries, and has enough damage with either primary or secondary to be able to kill most classes at full health with just two hits, nevermind the splash damage done to others and knockback that can be done. He can sticky jump, making him arguable more mobile than scouts at getting to certain points in maps, and either stickies or grenades can almost entirely stop the enemy team from going past a choke point.

Demoknight on the other hand, has to rely solely on his melee for damage, making it a simple matter of not going within his range to avoid getting killed by him. The most area control he can do is by being at some place and being a distraction, in which case a scout would be better. If a demoknight manages to destroy a sentry, or any guarded building for that matter, that engie was hopeless from the start. His melee does less damage than either grenades or stickies, so to get a kill against even a single enemy he'd have to use the very short window of crits his shield can grant him, and against any player that knows to avoid that this becomes useless beyond quicker movement, where sticky jumping is still better. He has no splash damage, hardly any knockback, and as I've said, sucks for area control. He's the WM1 of demos.
Sentient_Toaster Apr 3, 2013 @ 4:49pm 
0/10.

If you're a pyro who gets caught by a *long-distance* charge, then you failed to notice and airblast him which *completely stops the charge*. Fail.
J_ͣ_ͬ_ͣ_ͭ_ͤ King HUDs 8) Apr 3, 2013 @ 4:50pm 
Originally posted by Bear-O-Dactyl #yolo #B>b.m.o.c:
NO MANGACHU_ WONT BE HAPPY
But seriously, its op. With turn scripts you can do a full 360, and then in one hit kill a medic with the guaranteed crit. Even if you hit them with the charge n targe, wait a half second and then swing the sword it kills them with the crit. Really stupid imo

twitch.tv/mangachu_ is a prime example of this

Just go spy and do that exact same thing along with oneshotting his pocket and maybe anyone else there, and living to tell about it ten times more often, all the while (at least for comp) the demo can keep doing what he's good at.
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