[RB] Justin Kayse Dec 22, 2013 @ 12:58pm
Should Loose Cannon be usable on degrootkeep?
Why can't Demoman be OP on his own map?
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ShenanAgain Dec 22, 2013 @ 1:49pm 
He's already the Demoknight; what else do you need?
Jr. | »Stig Feb 17 @ 5:43am 
I was thinking about this tho but people called me a new player to TF2 :(
|SoH|Push 'Em Flames|GC| Feb 17 @ 5:47am 
Originally posted by ShenanAgain:
He's already the Demoknight; what else do you need?
I agree, already as demoknight, demoman is the strongest melee character (excluding spy). + with loose cannon you can cannon jump, which is overpowered against people who only melee.
Überlink Feb 17 @ 5:54am 
Nah, It would kinda be unfair, since it would be melee to start with, so Loose Cannon for a regular medival, no. If all Demo Medival battle with Loose Cannon enabled, hold on to your seats.
Soverine Feb 17 @ 5:58am 
Should Loose Cannon be usable on degrootkeep?
Originally posted by Justin Kayse:
Why can't Demoman be OP on his own map?
You answered your own question. OP. They don't want the game to be unbalanced.
[RB] Justin Kayse Feb 17 @ 2:26pm 
Right now, Sniper and Demo are OP. Then there's reaaaalllly specialized classes like Soldier and Engie.
The ones that have ranged weapons at this time are sniper and medic i believe, and demoknight is demoknight i guess XD
Rent a mop - Mumble Feb 17 @ 2:46pm 
Yep, demoknight is already GOTO class, and medic / sniper are the only other 2 with projectiles (which gives them at least a fighting chance).

Everything else pretty much just gets wrekt, besides possibly the heavy.
Staples575 Feb 17 @ 2:48pm 
It should be useable but with explosions disabled so it's just a high velocity metal ball that's ready to knock someones head off
Is the jarate useable in Medevil mode? (Degroot keep is the only map for this right now) if it is then i think Jarate chop would reck peoples faces aswell (Bushwacka and Jarate combo)
Edit:I think the loose cannon is the most Medevil-like ranged weapon the demo has, so i think maybe it should, but then we would have Idiots whining about how they want to use it instead of demoknight XD
Kai9001 Feb 17 @ 2:56pm 
Originally posted by Rent a mop:
Yep, demoknight is already GOTO class, and medic / sniper are the only other 2 with projectiles (which gives them at least a fighting chance).

Everything else pretty much just gets wrekt, besides possibly the heavy.
You forgot scoot with the sandman
Reality Feb 17 @ 3:07pm 
Degroot tiers

A: Demoman
B: Sniper, Spy
C: Medic, Heavy
D: Soldier
E: Pyro, Scout,Engie

The scouts have the same problem as medics who use the crosbow entirely as a weaopn, it dosen't really clear the point, and mad milk healing isn't generally as efficient as a 75 hp burst from a point blank bolt. Scout is pretty good for picking enemies, but the sandman/guilotine will not ensure a capture on point C. Soldier can kamikaze points, tank people with conhereor regen, and if he manages to fill a Battion's backup, the immunity to headshots, random crits, and shield crits can make any team fight around a control point really one sided for either team. I might be overating the buffulo heavy, but the top three are pretty much indisputable.

Of course, if your fighting bots or noobs who hold the mellee button down any class can kite any other class by dodging in and out of the attack interval.
Staples575 Feb 17 @ 3:11pm 
Originally posted by Reality:
Degroot tiers

A: Demoman
B: Sniper, Spy
C: Medic, Heavy
D: Soldier
E: Pyro, Scout,Engie

The scouts have the same problem as medics who use the crosbow entirely as a weaopn, it dosen't really clear the point, and mad milk healing isn't generally as efficient as a 75 hp burst from a point blank bolt. Scout is pretty good for picking enemies, but the sandman/guilotine will not ensure a capture on point C. Soldier can kamikaze points, tank people with conhereor regen, and if he manages to fill a Battion's backup, the immunity to headshots, random crits, and shield crits can make any team fight around a control point really one sided for either team. I might be overating the buffulo heavy, but the top three are pretty much indisputable.

Of course, if your fighting bots or noobs who hold the mellee button down any class can kite any other class by dodging in and out of the attack interval.

Can't the scout use ball+cleaver to pretty much 1 hit anyone in degroot? Also pyro can ignite people with one of its melee weapons so another pyro could get a crit or even a scout with the sun stick. So those classes aren't really bad I think they all have good weapons except engineer
Reality Feb 17 @ 3:15pm 
I don't think 1 hitting is a primary concern in degroot, since the whole 15-65% crit, and inevitable spam at the last point make being able to maintain a presence more valuable.
[RB] Justin Kayse Feb 17 @ 3:30pm 
Pyro and Scout are on Tier D, and Engie and Soldier on Tier E in my opinion. There is just no reason to use Soldier or Engie except for longshots.
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