Is anyone else tired...

[Stake from Jate Farm]

Of people complaining about the axtiguisher nerf?

Seriously, this is why it was nerfed.

When combined with the power of the degreaser, it allowed the class with the highest health/speed ratio to INSTAKILL every class but the heavy, the pyro, and a demo with the chargin' targe.

inb4 anyone says "Sniper and Spy have that ability", yes, they do. And both of them have low health pools, both of them dont have a other reliable weapons to fend off anyone who they fail to assassinate, and finally, both of them take a degree of skill to instakill. With Sniper, you need to have decent aim, and with Spy, you need to mimic the enemy team's movements and/or be sneaky. A pre-nerf axtinguster pyro could just charge into the heat of battle, usually with a medic, and do what the facestabber was intended to do.

Now, with the nerf, a Pyro needs to be sneaky and get behind the enemy to use the axtinguiser to its full potential.

So please, please stop complaining.

[Stake from Jate Farm]

Originally posted by Sinny:

People will never stop complaining, no matter what Valve does.

Congratulations for typing tons of nonsense. And it's nonsense because none of those complainers care.

idgaf, it feels good to get something out in the open, even if everyone ignores it

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This thread is so stupid that it crashed my monitor.

[AUTOMATED GAY SPACE COMMUNISM]

I'm already tired of all the "crutch" and op threads.

[Stake from Jate Farm]

Originally posted by Lewin the Bastion Hors:

I'm already tired of all the "crutch" and op threads.

You too, huh?

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Originally posted by Lewin the Bastion Hors:

I'm already tired of all the "crutch" and op threads.

Then don't read them.

[Smugleaf]

If pyros could reliably kill people with the Axtinguisher without ambushing, they should have just used W+M1 if they're fighting against players that terrible. The only thing that the nerf did was made more pyros realize that the Powerjack was always the best pyro melee.

[Stake from Jate Farm]

Originally posted by Smugleaf:

If pyros could reliably kill people with the Axtinguisher without ambushing, they should have just used W+M1 if they're fighting against players that terrible. The only thing that the nerf did was made more pyros realize that the Powerjack was always the best pyro melee.

Is that necessarily a bad thing?

[Mashpit]

yeah, you should be able to defeat the close-range specialist class when you were dumb enough to run into his melee range right
riiiiiight
Axtinguisher nerf wasn't even needed but it shut the madsbads like you up, so I'm fine with it
Powerjack was the go-to weapon for not-shit Pyros even before the nerf anyways

[trash]

axtinguisher was easymode noob trash for shitter pyros who m2 for kills

that being said, the problem is that pyro doesn't actually have any really useful killing potential now

the only reasons to play pyro are either if your team needs somebody to sit around and m2 ubers/spam, or if you want to dump on pubbies with a degreaser+shotty/flare

[chools]

i agree

[Smugleaf]

Originally posted by The Slenderborn:

Is that necessarily a bad thing?

Well making pyros play support more isn't bad, but it's not like weapon choice matters that much in pubs anyway.

[Stake from Jate Farm]

Originally posted by Mashpit | Sick:

yeah, you should be able to defeat the close-range specialist class when you were dumb enough to run into his melee range right
riiiiiight
Axtinguisher nerf wasn't even needed but it shut the madsbads like you up, so I'm fine with it
Powerjack was the go-to weapon for not-shit Pyros even before the nerf anyways

Actually, i've rarely been killed by the pre-nerf axtinguiser pyro's.

But that might have something to do with me choosing the chargin' targe over the sticky launcher.

I used to main demoknight.

[Something Else]

Originally posted by The Slenderborn:

Of people complaining about the axtiguisher nerf?

Seriously, this is why it was nerfed.

When combined with the power of the degreaser, it allowed the class with the highest health/speed ratio to INSTAKILL every class but the heavy, the pyro, and a demo with the chargin' targe.

inb4 anyone says "Sniper and Spy have that ability", yes, they do. And both of them have low health pools, both of them dont have a other reliable weapons to fend off anyone who they fail to assassinate, and finally, both of them take a degree of skill to instakill. With Sniper, you need to have decent aim, and with Spy, you need to mimic the enemy team's movements and/or be sneaky. A pre-nerf axtinguster pyro could just charge into the heat of battle, usually with a medic, and do what the facestabber was intended to do.

Now, with the nerf, a Pyro needs to be sneaky and get behind the enemy to use the axtinguiser to its full potential.

So please, please stop complaining.

I agree with you. These combo pyros are wayy too effective. I think the flare gun should get a nerf too.

[Stake from Jate Farm]

Originally posted by Something Else:

Originally posted by The Slenderborn:

Of people complaining about the axtiguisher nerf?

Seriously, this is why it was nerfed.

When combined with the power of the degreaser, it allowed the class with the highest health/speed ratio to INSTAKILL every class but the heavy, the pyro, and a demo with the chargin' targe.

inb4 anyone says "Sniper and Spy have that ability", yes, they do. And both of them have low health pools, both of them dont have a other reliable weapons to fend off anyone who they fail to assassinate, and finally, both of them take a degree of skill to instakill. With Sniper, you need to have decent aim, and with Spy, you need to mimic the enemy team's movements and/or be sneaky. A pre-nerf axtinguster pyro could just charge into the heat of battle, usually with a medic, and do what the facestabber was intended to do.

Now, with the nerf, a Pyro needs to be sneaky and get behind the enemy to use the axtinguiser to its full potential.

So please, please stop complaining.

I agree with you. These combo pyros are wayy too effective. I think the flare gun should get a nerf too.

Eh, it may be a little broken at times, but the total damage is 90 for a crit, and considering you can only fire one flare at a time...... I dont really think it needs a nerf.

[Ace42]

Originally posted by The Slenderborn:

When combined with the power of the degreaser, it allowed the class with the highest health/speed ratio to INSTAKILL every class but the heavy, the pyro, and a demo with the chargin' targe.

Just to clarify, it gave the class with the second worst mobility and trashiest base DPS in the game the opportunity to execute a fast-acting combo that two-hit-kills every class but the aforementioned – thereby bringing his lethality somewhat close to that of everyone else in the game.

And both of them have low health pools, both of them dont have a other reliable weapons to fend off anyone who they fail to assassinate, and finally, both of them take a degree of skill to instakill.

Uhm... Bushwacka + Jarate combo? Massive range advantage? Stealth Tools? Revolver? Ambassador? No... And backstabbing mechanics use same hitboxes as an axtinguisher hit, except for the 180degree limit.

With Sniper, you need to have decent aim, and with Spy, you need to mimic the enemy team's movements and/or be sneaky.

And with Pyro you had to be playing against potatoes who couldn't spot a slow moving and conspicuous Pyro waltzing up into melee range...

A pre-nerf axtinguster pyro could just charge into the heat of battle, usually with a medic, and do what the facestabber was intended to do.

No, he couldn't. To get into melee range you have to move *through* every other class's lethal ranges.

Now, with the nerf, a Pyro needs to be sneaky and get behind the enemy to use the axtinguiser to its full potential.

Only works vs bads, as you can turn around and break the crit angle before the blow lands as soon as you're lit up.

So please, please stop complaining.

Nah... I think I'll keep raising valid criticisms that have failed to be addressed, thanks. Especially if the people telling me not to are just bads who get slaughtered by Pyros...