[DTC] Zmx ‏ May 13 @ 11:58am
Sugest: Improve SPY !
I would suggest some feature to improve the SPY, without breaking a lot of thing.

Today the common "I'm not a SPY" consist of attack with your weapon. (a little flame with pyro, a melee attack when you see a friend)

And that SPY, that can reload weapon, emulate weapon change, take your identify, CAN'T simulate a weapon fire...

My first suggestion is to add a command for the spy to "fake fire"

The second one, is in the same spirit: "why this sniper never scope ?", yes I would be very pleased with a "fake scope" command too :)


This two little thing will probably change nothing for good spy (they kill you even before you see them), so in my mind this is not OP.
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Harmless Orange May 13 @ 12:05pm 
New Disquise Kit:
+ Can fake fire *Just Shoot from revolver*
+ Disquise wears off only when you hit someone *Including Ally*
- Revolver do no dmg when disquised
+ 25% DMG taked when disquised
Infu-p May 13 @ 12:07pm 
Originally posted by Harmless Rapefruit:
New Disquise Kit:
+ Can fake fire *Just Shoot from revolver*
+ Disquise wears off only when you hit someone *Including Ally*
- Revolver do no dmg when disquised
+ 25% DMG taked when disquised
Yea, instead of regular spychecking now and then, make everyoen spycheck everyone regardless of wheter they can fire their weapons or not.

No. It would create a spychecking mess.
Harmless Orange May 13 @ 12:08pm 
Originally posted by Infu:
Originally posted by Harmless Rapefruit:
New Disquise Kit:
+ Can fake fire *Just Shoot from revolver*
+ Disquise wears off only when you hit someone *Including Ally*
- Revolver do no dmg when disquised
+ 25% DMG taked when disquised
Yea, instead of regular spychecking now and then, make everyoen spycheck everyone regardless of wheter they can fire their weapons or not.

No. It would create a spychecking mess.
hmm
Disquise Kit:
+ Can fake fire *Just Shoot from revolver*
+ Disquise wears off only when you hit someone *Including Ally*
- Revolver do no dmg when disquised
+ 25% DMG taked when disquised
- Disquise wears off when hitted
NOW GUD!?
Infu-p May 13 @ 12:09pm 
I suggest stalking.

This is a feature that lets spy move 35% faster for a very short period of time, making it so he can catch up with most targets.

This will encourage picks, let you get out of tight situation ETC.

That or and you get to choose when to move at normal speed and when to move at heavy speed when disguised as heavy.
Infu-p May 13 @ 12:10pm 
Originally posted by Harmless Rapefruit:
Originally posted by Infu:
Yea, instead of regular spychecking now and then, make everyoen spycheck everyone regardless of wheter they can fire their weapons or not.

No. It would create a spychecking mess.
hmm
Disquise Kit:
+ Can fake fire *Just Shoot from revolver*
+ Disquise wears off only when you hit someone *Including Ally*
- Revolver do no dmg when disquised
+ 25% DMG taked when disquised
- Disquise wears off when hitted
NOW GUD!?
Still. The idea is good on paper, but it goes agaisnt itself.

Nowadays we spycheck suspious players.

This would make players go apenuts, making everyone spyechkign everyone 24/7, making it EVEN harder to be a spy.
Sentient_Toaster May 13 @ 12:20pm 
Or... you could just try to be sneaky, choose flanking routes, and pick people when they're distracted rather than trying to remake the class into an overpowered scout-speed backstabber.
ABlindSniper115 May 13 @ 12:21pm 
You know what I would think would be amazing for a spy?

Disguise Kit:
+ Can pass through enemies while disguised.
+ Being on fire is not noticable while disguised.
+ 100% less knockback from all sources while disguised
- Cannot backstab while disguised
- Placing a sapper causes you to lose your disguise
- Disguising takes 50% longer

Basically, it makes you very hard if not impossible to be detected, but also makes it very hard to get kills or to sap buildings. Definitely would make things more interesting.
Harmless Orange May 13 @ 12:35pm 
Originally posted by ABlindSniper115:
You know what I would think would be amazing for a spy?

Disguise Kit:
+ Can pass through enemies while disguised.
+ Being on fire is not noticable while disguised.
+ 100% less knockback from all sources while disguised
- Backstab dont do critical dmg and deal only max HP *You will survive with overheal*
- Placing a sapper causes you to lose your disguise
- Disguising takes 50% longer

Basically, it makes you very hard if not impossible to be detected, but also makes it very hard to get kills or to sap buildings. Definitely would make things more interesting.
Better idea
9B! Walki May 13 @ 12:43pm 
Originally posted by ABlindSniper115:
You know what I would think would be amazing for a spy?

Disguise Kit:
+ Can pass through enemies while disguised.
+ Being on fire is not noticable while disguised.
+ 100% less knockback from all sources while disguised
- Cannot backstab while disguised
- Placing a sapper causes you to lose your disguise
- Disguising takes 50% longer

Basically, it makes you very hard if not impossible to be detected, but also makes it very hard to get kills or to sap buildings. Definitely would make things more interesting.

Then sniper counter spy (jarate)
GarnetSnatcher May 13 @ 12:45pm 
Originally posted by ABlindSniper115:
- Cannot backstab while disguised
Did we miss this or something?
△Citrus May 13 @ 12:58pm 
Pro-spy tip. Disguise the right disguise at the right place. Pro-spy tip 2. Do not run into them, get them to run to you or bluff them.
[DTC] Zmx ‏ May 13 @ 3:01pm 
Originally posted by Citrus:
Pro-spy tip. Disguise the right disguise at the right place. Pro-spy tip 2. Do not run into them, get them to run to you or bluff them.

This is exactly why I have said this will not add extra power to spy :)
Lumanator May 13 @ 3:08pm 
No because spy would be overpowered like that.
Koygmire May 13 @ 3:09pm 
when disguised spy should have zero attributes of the disguised class: otherwise everyone would just go spy and disguise to play all classes at the same time.

Priceless Persuader May 13 @ 3:57pm 
Spy is fine as it is.
Any one who says he needs to be buffed/nerfed just sucks at TF2.
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