Ebola-Clam (Banned) Mar 19 @ 4:43am
Why do people think the SMG is a good weapon?
Sure, it may be good for killing people, but, FYI, you can headshot them from long to medium range and melee them at close range, making it easily replaceable.
Not to mention that every other sniper secondary, even the crappy Razorback, is more useful to keeping alive or supporting you and your team, like the jarate.
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Ajay Mar 19 @ 4:46am 
there is no reason to sniper a jumpring scout who comes near you. When he is good he run around you where your meele weapon will bring nothing. Thats why some people take the smg, its just the need to show someone you can fight on medium range with more than 2 shots per minute and often people just run by and take some other
Ebola-Clam (Banned) Mar 19 @ 4:48am 
Originally posted by Ajay:
there is no reason to sniper a jumpring scout who comes near you. When he is good he run around you where your meele weapon will bring nothing. Thats why some people take the smg, its just the need to show someone you can fight on medium range with more than 2 shots per minute and often people just run by and take some other
I guess, but if a scout gets close to you, SMG or not, it's rather likely you would die anyway, because the scattergun can 2 shot you if he got that close.
2↓st Sentry Gentleman Mar 19 @ 4:50am 
Because it goes pew pew pew.

In all honesty though, I get where you're coming from; jar+noscopes outperforms the SMG in terms of burst damage and accuracy by far, while yielding at least the same damage/time output, all the Jar's other competences left aside.
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goldencompass (Banned) Mar 19 @ 4:52am 
SMG is for those who don't want to jarate for the team, or feel reletively safe on the battlefield.
[EMU] Mr. Conga (mvm any 1) (Banned) Mar 19 @ 4:53am 
the smg is stupidly overpowered, It's like a minigun with
+no spin up time
+no movement penalty
-%50 damage
Ebola-Clam (Banned) Mar 19 @ 4:56am 
Originally posted by goldencompass:
SMG is for those who don't want to jarate for the team, or feel reletively safe on the battlefield.
It still doesn't have enough usefulness compared to other sniper secondaries to be viable in anything than non-serious play.
Razorback keeps spies from backstabbing you. That may not seem useful, but atleast you'll trick BAD spies.
Jarate causes enemies to take minicrits and can extuingish fire.
DD lets you survive a headshot and take less damage from average bullets.
Camper lets you not flinch so you can still headshot that minigun spamming heavy.
SMG lets you do sub-par damage in range where you can headshot the enemy or just melee them.
Ebola-Clam (Banned) Mar 19 @ 4:57am 
Originally posted by The Lucky DemoPan:
the smg is stupidly overpowered, It's like a minigun with
+no spin up time
+no movement penalty
-%99 damage
Fixed.
I really hope you were trolling.
[EMU] Mr. Conga (mvm any 1) (Banned) Mar 19 @ 5:12am 
Originally posted by TheClamFace:
Originally posted by The Lucky DemoPan:
the smg is stupidly overpowered, It's like a minigun with
+no spin up time
+no movement penalty
-%50 damage
Fixed.
I really hope you were trolling.
I'm serious, It's stupidly overpowered. it needs a nerf.
Ebola-Clam (Banned) Mar 19 @ 5:22am 
Originally posted by The Lucky DemoPan:
Originally posted by TheClamFace:
Fixed.
I really hope you were trolling.
I'm serious, It's stupidly overpowered. it needs a nerf.
Dude.
I can not comprehend SMG and overpowered in the same sense.
It does pretty bad damage.
And it is not worth it compared to all other sniper secondaries.
If it was worth it, or overpowered, everyone would use it.
Also, lemme fix it again.
SMG
No spin up time
No move penalty
-75% damage
Has a clip
Clip is only 25
Only 75 extra ammo
Makes you look like a noob.
jak1419 Mar 19 @ 7:35am 
Originally posted by TheClamFace:
Originally posted by The Lucky DemoPan:
I'm serious, It's stupidly overpowered. it needs a nerf.
Dude.
I can not comprehend SMG and overpowered in the same sense.
It does pretty bad damage.
And it is not worth it compared to all other sniper secondaries.
If it was worth it, or overpowered, everyone would use it.
Also, lemme fix it again.
SMG
No spin up time
No move penalty
-75% damage
Has a clip
Clip is only 25
Only 75 extra ammo
Makes you look like a CoD fan.
fixed.
Lee Everett Mar 19 @ 8:25am 
SMG is good but Jarate is even better. End of story.
۩≈PoF≈۩ Spud-Mann Mar 19 @ 11:58am 
SMG is reliable self-defense weapon and it does its job well.
No-scopes sure do have nice burst-damage but those are not reliable unless you are some form of human aimbot.
Jarate+Bushwacka, either you ambushed and enemy with or enemy was derp enough to let you hit him, I wouldn´t count is as reliable method of self-defense. Same thing other melees.

People who bash SMG should really just equip and play with it and I should know that I was die-hard "Jarate-Bushwacka, everything else is trash" Sniper player but once I bought S.SMG for my collection long time ago and really started using it I do like it.

Sure it does not do that much damage but you got to remember it is self-defense weapon like Medics syringe guns, treat it like that!
You heard Spy decloaking behind turn around try one no-scope and start unloading your SMG, it is much more easier and reliable than start dancing and firing one 50 damage shot every 1.5 seconds.

To compare no-scopes and SMG:
With rifle minimum to kill Spy with no-scopes takes 4.5 seconds, with perfect accuracy
With SMG it is over in minimum of 1.25 seconds when you start firing, with perfect accuracy.
Ofc those values are never going to happen in-game but you get the point.

tl;dr SMG is fine it does it´s job well as self-defense weapon. Those who trash it, equip it and actually use it in-game.
Last edited by ۩≈PoF≈۩ Spud-Mann; Mar 19 @ 11:58am
Spooky Medic (Darkanine) (Banned) Mar 19 @ 12:22pm 
SMG may not be as good as Jarate (but it's not terrible), but it's super fun to use.
Turtle knight Mar 19 @ 12:41pm 
If you're a camper sniper, jarate is good for spy searching. If you're more mobile, SMG is better.
Sentient_Toaster Mar 19 @ 12:55pm 
Just don't use it as your primary and expect that to actually work.
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