Moko Mar 1 @ 7:43am
Highlander and 6v6 as official gamemodes?
For me TF2 is nearly unplayable in public servers thanks to class-stacking along with too many players. The gamemodes I enjoy playing in TF2 are Highlander and 6v6, which are only playable in special servers with passwords and invited players.

Even if these two are possible to play through TF2Lobby/TF2Center and by participating in tournaments, would it be possible to add them as something that every TF2 player can find? TF2 already has a pre-game lobby system for MVM, so why not import it to this kind of use?

This could even help new players in getting into the competitive side of TF2.
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Pierow V∞ Mar 1 @ 7:48am 
If you run a dedicated server, you can set it to tournament mode.
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waldo (Banned) Mar 1 @ 7:48am 
SOunds like you want valve to get the word out that these modes are a thing? Isee no harm in that.
There is a bit of a gap between pubs and even lobbies, let alone full competitive, but what makes them important is that they take a lot of teamwork and because of that they take a fair deal of skill before you can really go in them.

Including them as an official gamemode will make it end up like MvM, full of people who don't know what they're doing. There's already a lot of complaints there for MvM, and that's against bots, imagine against actual players.
Moko Mar 1 @ 7:50am 
Originally posted by Pierow V∞:
If you run a dedicated server, you can set it to tournament mode.
I know, but these kind of servers are extremely rare. It'd be great if Valve reserved some of it's servers for servers with tournament mode enabled.
Pierow V∞ Mar 1 @ 7:51am 
Originally posted by Demoko:
Originally posted by Pierow V∞:
If you run a dedicated server, you can set it to tournament mode.
I know, but these kind of servers are extremely rare. It'd be great if Valve reserved some of it's servers for servers with tournament mode enabled.
What I meant by that is you should host your own server.
Moko Mar 1 @ 7:55am 
Originally posted by J_ͣ_ͬ_ͣ_ͭ_ͤ King:
There is a bit of a gap between pubs and even lobbies, let alone full competitive, but what makes them important is that they take a lot of teamwork and because of that they take a fair deal of skill before you can really go in them.

Including them as an official gamemode will make it end up like MvM, full of people who don't know what they're doing. There's already a lot of complaints there for MvM, and that's against bots, imagine against actual players.
Hmm... Stomping would be a lot easier, that's for sure. Then again, extremely accurate team balance is impossible to do. This could also cease the popularity of lobbies, where the players are fairly high-skilled.
Moko Mar 1 @ 7:56am 
Originally posted by Pierow V∞:
Originally posted by Demoko:
I know, but these kind of servers are extremely rare. It'd be great if Valve reserved some of it's servers for servers with tournament mode enabled.
What I meant by that is you should host your own server.
I don't believe many would find that server unless someone made a big deal about it. People would also get confused why they can't be the fifth sniper in the team, then leave.
ℨε℮кϟтℯƴ Mar 1 @ 8:08am 
Must be really hard for valve to use +maxplayers 18 and class limit plugin

Valve doesn't give a ♥♥♥♥ about tf2, let's face it
ℨε℮кϟтℯƴ Mar 1 @ 8:09am 
Originally posted by Pierow V∞:
If you run a dedicated server, you can set it to tournament mode.

But as wise man said, this is your solution
Moko Mar 1 @ 8:09am 
Originally posted by /人 ⌒ ‿‿ ⌒ 人\:
Must be really hard for valve to use +maxplayers 18 and class limit plugin

Valve doesn't give a ♥♥♥♥ about tf2, let's face it
This. Come on Valve, this is some free money right here.
Originally posted by /人 ⌒ ‿‿ ⌒ 人\:
Must be really hard for valve to use +maxplayers 18 and class limit plugin

Valve doesn't give a ♥♥♥♥ about tf2, let's face it
There's a difference between able to and seeing it as beneficial.
Lagger -CZE- (Banned) Mar 1 @ 8:11am 
Originally posted by J_ͣ_ͬ_ͣ_ͭ_ͤ King:
There is a bit of a gap between pubs and even lobbies, let alone full competitive, but what makes them important is that they take a lot of teamwork and because of that they take a fair deal of skill before you can really go in them.

Including them as an official gamemode will make it end up like MvM, full of people who don't know what they're doing. There's already a lot of complaints there for MvM, and that's against bots, imagine against actual players.

Heey! Another discussion? Possibly outside waldos thread? I'm okay with that.

Problem is that lobbies aren't supported or encouraged by Valve. If they would, I'd like them a bit more. Imagining how much people goes pub stomper instead of trying lobbies just because they don't know about them or dislike how they work, if Valve would encourage them the'd go and try them. And by the way they also have hour limit, so people with no clue what is going on couldn't join. Even if I think that's unfair to them, it's probably right.

Now I'm consedering in this still stays a community thing, not a Valve gamemode, okay?

That analogy to MvM is possible, but misunderstood. It's a gamemode, not a match. Restricting it to people who paid for tickets would destroy Valve's reputation. Plus, nobody knew how to play it whe it was new, did they? Taking it MvM's status now, it's a bit better then it used to.
Originally posted by Lagger -CZE- *CAN'T PLAY*:
Originally posted by J_ͣ_ͬ_ͣ_ͭ_ͤ King:
There is a bit of a gap between pubs and even lobbies, let alone full competitive, but what makes them important is that they take a lot of teamwork and because of that they take a fair deal of skill before you can really go in them.

Including them as an official gamemode will make it end up like MvM, full of people who don't know what they're doing. There's already a lot of complaints there for MvM, and that's against bots, imagine against actual players.

Heey! Another discussion? Possibly outside waldos thread? I'm okay with that.

Problem is that lobbies aren't supported or encouraged by Valve. If they would, I'd like them a bit more. Imagining how much people goes pub stomper instead of trying lobbies just because they don't know about them or dislike how they work, if Valve would encourage them the'd go and try them. And by the way they also have hour limit, so people with no clue what is going on couldn't join. Even if I think that's unfair to them, it's probably right.

Now I'm consedering in this still stays a community thing, not a Valve gamemode, okay?

That analogy to MvM is possible, but misunderstood. It's a gamemode, not a match. Restricting it to people who paid for tickets would destroy Valve's reputation. Plus, nobody knew how to play it whe it was new, did they? Taking it MvM's status now, it's a bit better then it used to.
I'd be fine with that, as long as it still stays pretty "do this if you're serious and want to get a higher challenge than pubs, not if you've just played the game for 30 hours and found that you could play engie and get a kill with your sentry sometimes."

I had more of bootcamp in my mind, the serious players usually don't go there (in mvm for mann up, in competitive for well, competitive) and so because it's readily available and anyone can go there, you'll tend to get a long of people that plainly shouldn't be there.
Craig Mar 1 @ 8:27am 
Eeeh... I don't like it, for the following reasons

My 6s team have played with eachother forever. A team that gets picked for me automatically will have no strats, no Skype and probable no knowledge. Even if I'm using a strat my team would recognise, becuase that's what I do, my new "team" would ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ it up.

Also, they might not be able to communicate. TF2 is a multi-lingual game, so, maybe if I got UK'ers and US'ers, it might go well. If I get Russians, French or Spanish, I can't understand them, and they can't understand me.
Moko Mar 1 @ 8:59am 
Originally posted by Matt:
Eeeh... I don't like it, for the following reasons

My 6s team have played with eachother forever. A team that gets picked for me automatically will have no strats, no Skype and probable no knowledge. Even if I'm using a strat my team would recognise, becuase that's what I do, my new "team" would ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ it up.

Also, they might not be able to communicate. TF2 is a multi-lingual game, so, maybe if I got UK'ers and US'ers, it might go well. If I get Russians, French or Spanish, I can't understand them, and they can't understand me.
But this wouldn't stop you from playing with your team.
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