conr Feb 24, 2014 @ 7:28pm
The Phlogistinator
Why are people who use the Phlog considered "noobs"? I don't see what's wrong with removing airblast in return for more damage.

I don't ever use the Phlog, nor do I like the weapon, but I don't see what the issue is.

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Muldoon Feb 24, 2014 @ 7:29pm 
It grants insta-crits for pressing the w+m1 buttons. Good thing they're useless against soldiers, otherwise, they'd be unstoppable.
Outkin Feb 24, 2014 @ 7:35pm 
It takes away the only part of the pyro that requires skill, in exchange for encouraging poor tactics.
conr Feb 24, 2014 @ 7:36pm 
Originally posted by xy²:
It grants insta-crits for pressing the w+m1 buttons. Good thing they're useless against soldiers, otherwise, they'd be unstoppable.


Originally posted by Outkin:
It takes away the only part of the pyro that requires skill, in exchange for encouraging poor tactics.
So how do you think Valve should balnce the weapon?
Muldoon Feb 24, 2014 @ 7:37pm 
Originally posted by I-HG Connorjulian:
Originally posted by xy²:
It grants insta-crits for pressing the w+m1 buttons. Good thing they're useless against soldiers, otherwise, they'd be unstoppable.


Originally posted by Outkin:
It takes away the only part of the pyro that requires skill, in exchange for encouraging poor tactics.
So how do you think Valve should balnce the weapon?

Maybe they could make it do mini-crits or just re-work it.
Good Name [VACATION] (Banned) Feb 24, 2014 @ 7:41pm 
Originally posted by xy²:
Originally posted by I-HG Connorjulian:



So how do you think Valve should balnce the weapon?

Maybe they could make it do mini-crits or just re-work it.
It should get a 50% damage penalty.
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LeeF:GO has cow flamethrowers Feb 24, 2014 @ 7:57pm 
It's so easy to kill Phlog pyros. It can't reflect rockets or grenades. On top of that, When he taunts, back away, and lay waste.
Frozen Today Feb 24, 2014 @ 7:59pm 
It is truly amazing how few people know how to deal with a phlog pyro.

Step one: Back the ♥♥♥♥ up
Sentient_Toaster Feb 24, 2014 @ 8:22pm 
It's the weakest of the flamethrowers by far, unless we're talking about a verrrrry low-skill environment.

Ideally, it'd be reworked. At least it could be un-nerfed for MvM so it'd have *some* niche.
Sin Feb 24, 2014 @ 8:26pm 
It isn't low skilled to go W+M1, because the whole point of a Pyro is to light people on fire, and the most effective way to do that is going close quarters.
olde (Banned) Feb 24, 2014 @ 8:26pm 
1 market garden.
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Tj. Feb 24, 2014 @ 10:36pm 
rewards players with crits and almost god mode while taunting for basically holding two buttons (w+m1) and promotes bad play with it's removal of airblast, and it's so god damn overused, it and the degreaser i swear are the only flamethrowers actually being used
Ǥ | The Emerald Archer Feb 24, 2014 @ 10:38pm 
Originally posted by TJ Lazer:
rewards players with crits and almost god mode while taunting for basically holding two buttons (w+m1) and promotes bad play with it's removal of airblast, and it's so god damn overused, it and the degreaser i swear are the only flamethrowers actually being used

perhaps you'd like my THE AERO and THE HYDRO threads then.... most likely Aero
۩≈PoF≈۩ Spud-Mann Feb 25, 2014 @ 1:02am 
Originally posted by Outkin:
It takes away the only part of the pyro that requires skill, in exchange for encouraging poor tactics.
Since when is ambushing a poor tactic?
Soverine Feb 25, 2014 @ 1:26am 
Originally posted by ۩≈PoF≈۩ Spüd-Männ:
Originally posted by Outkin:
It takes away the only part of the pyro that requires skill, in exchange for encouraging poor tactics.
Since when is ambushing a poor tactic?
All flamethrowers encourage ambushing. I assume he's talking comparatively. So, no, he's not picking at ambushing.
Last edited by Soverine; Feb 25, 2014 @ 1:27am
Mr. Conga (Banned) Feb 25, 2014 @ 1:29am 
W + M1 = nooby

Phlog: W + M1 4 fray cratz

nuff said
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