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[EMU] Mr. Conga (Verbannen) 20 feb om 12:06vm
Phlog needs a nerf
It's basicly Free crits and free hp. It takes no skill at all and all you need to do is hold W and M1 while pressing M2 every few seconds and you have the top of the leader board. Please nerf this item. Any ideas on how to nerf this item?

best nerf ideas so far:
The Pinnacle Of Crayon's ~ Minicrits instead of crits.
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Satsujin Jiken 20 feb om 12:09vm 
Not sure if troll...
[EMU] Mr. Conga (Verbannen) 20 feb om 12:10vm 
Origineel geplaatst door Satsujin Jiken:
Not sure if troll...
The phlog is broken. It's free crits for playing pyro.
The Defective Crayon 20 feb om 12:16vm 
If this is a troll thread, I'll play along.

What if it still healed you, but, the damage output is Mini-Crits instead of Full-Crits?
[EMU] Mr. Conga (Verbannen) 20 feb om 12:17vm 
Origineel geplaatst door The Pinnacle Of Crayon's:
If this is a troll thread, I'll play along.

What if it still healed you, but, the damage output is Mini-Crits instead of Full-Crits?
I'd find the minicrits balanced but this isn't a troll thread
Frozen Today 20 feb om 12:30vm 
Origineel geplaatst door Achmed the Dead Terrorist:
The phlog is broken. It's free crits for playing pyro.
So is the backburner? I'm not sure I understand that assessment.



Origineel geplaatst door The Pinnacle Of Crayon's:
If this is a troll thread, I'll play along.

What if it still healed you, but, the damage output is Mini-Crits instead of Full-Crits?
The healing isn't even really the problem, it's the full crits, and maybe the absurd resistance. (I know it was knocked down from 90% to 75%, but I'd make it as low as 50%)
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Noble Hatter's Violet 20 feb om 12:31vm 
Origineel geplaatst door Achmed the Dead Terrorist:
It takes no skill at all and all you need to do is hold W and M1 while pressing M2 every few seconds and you have the top of the leader board.
Ok, apply that to any of the other classes, now do you see your mistake? Any and every class can w+m1. Should every class and every weapon be nerfed? No. Stay out of a phlog pyros range and guess what! No crits or health for him.
Frozen Today 20 feb om 12:33vm 
Origineel geplaatst door Noble Hatter's Violet:
Origineel geplaatst door Achmed the Dead Terrorist:
It takes no skill at all and all you need to do is hold W and M1 while pressing M2 every few seconds and you have the top of the leader board.
Ok, apply that to any of the other classes, now do you see your mistake? Any and every class can w+m1. Should every class and every weapon be nerfed? No. Stay out of a phlog pyros range and guess what! No crits or health for him.
Phlog pyro can generate mmph with a scorch shot or a flare gun, so the range thing applies to a lesser degree.

EDIT: Or detonator
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Noble Hatter's Violet 20 feb om 12:35vm 
Origineel geplaatst door Frozen Today:
Origineel geplaatst door Noble Hatter's Violet:
Ok, apply that to any of the other classes, now do you see your mistake? Any and every class can w+m1. Should every class and every weapon be nerfed? No. Stay out of a phlog pyros range and guess what! No crits or health for him.
Phlog pyro can generate mmph with a scorch shot or a flare gun, so the range thing applies to a lesser degree.

EDIT: Or detonator
Slow moving projectiles that are pretty easy to dodge, even with the AoE of the Scorch Shot and Detonator.
[EMU] Mr. Conga (Verbannen) 20 feb om 12:36vm 
Origineel geplaatst door Noble Hatter's Violet:
Origineel geplaatst door Frozen Today:
Phlog pyro can generate mmph with a scorch shot or a flare gun, so the range thing applies to a lesser degree.

EDIT: Or detonator
Slow moving projectiles that are pretty easy to dodge, even with the AoE of the Scorch Shot and Detonator.
It's easy to shoot a sniper with a flaregun abusing his tunnel vison.
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Noble Hatter's Violet 20 feb om 12:39vm 
Origineel geplaatst door Achmed the Dead Terrorist:
Origineel geplaatst door Noble Hatter's Violet:
Slow moving projectiles that are pretty easy to dodge, even with the AoE of the Scorch Shot and Detonator.
It's easy to shoot a sniper with a flaregun abusing his tunnel vison.
That is a bad sniper then. A sniper should never be permanently scoped in unless he is shooting something. A sniper should also never be standing still unless scoped in, shooting something.
[EMU] Mr. Conga (Verbannen) 20 feb om 12:43vm 
Origineel geplaatst door Noble Hatter's Violet:
Origineel geplaatst door Achmed the Dead Terrorist:
It's easy to shoot a sniper with a flaregun abusing his tunnel vison.
That is a bad sniper then. A sniper should never be permanently scoped in unless he is shooting something. A sniper should also never be standing still unless scoped in, shooting something.
The average server has a good everything and a bad everything. You will have snipers who quick-scope and snipers who stand still permanantly zoomed in.
Frozen Today 20 feb om 12:44vm 
Origineel geplaatst door Noble Hatter's Violet:
Origineel geplaatst door Achmed the Dead Terrorist:
It's easy to shoot a sniper with a flaregun abusing his tunnel vison.
That is a bad sniper then. A sniper should never be permanently scoped in unless he is shooting something. A sniper should also never be standing still unless scoped in, shooting something.
I don't want the impression to come across that I think the Pyro is overpowered, I really don't think that. I do however think the phlogistonator is too good at what it does. Yes it has counters, and that's why it isn't "OP."
[EMU] Mr. Conga (Verbannen) 20 feb om 12:47vm 
Origineel geplaatst door Frozen Today:
Origineel geplaatst door Noble Hatter's Violet:
That is a bad sniper then. A sniper should never be permanently scoped in unless he is shooting something. A sniper should also never be standing still unless scoped in, shooting something.
I don't want the impression to come across that I think the Pyro is overpowered, I really don't think that. I do however think the phlogistonator is too good at what it does. Yes it has counters, and that's why it isn't "OP."

It's OP as hell. It just takes 225 damage to give you:
A: free crits
and
B: full hp

seems legit
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Noble Hatter's Violet 20 feb om 12:48vm 
Origineel geplaatst door Achmed the Dead Terrorist:
Origineel geplaatst door Noble Hatter's Violet:
That is a bad sniper then. A sniper should never be permanently scoped in unless he is shooting something. A sniper should also never be standing still unless scoped in, shooting something.
The average server has a good everything and a bad everything. You will have snipers who quick-scope and snipers who stand still permanantly zoomed in.
Just because there are bad players doesn't mean the Phlog is OP. No weapon is truely OP; yes some are obviously a lot better than their counterparts that could do with rebalancing, but its the skill level of the user that makes certain weapons seem OP.
Give the powerjack's negative to the pyro's phlog. Now he will have to actually fight for the crits properly.
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