Adammatic Jun 30, 2014 @ 2:17pm
Buff Pyro after the Axtinguisher Nerf
I suggest allowing him to triple jump, give him +50% more health, and +89.45% faster move speed.





































In other words, I main as Pyro and I don't care about the nerf, get over it people.
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{GPW} ѕιℓєηтηιηנα Jun 30, 2014 @ 2:37pm 
People don't like it when the weapon they completely or almost completely rely on is nerfed.
It deserved that nerf.
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Gildemesh Jun 30, 2014 @ 2:38pm 
I have a feeling this will start a flame war, but I would have to agree, it was a simple weapon change. I'm surprised people don't use any other weapon. The Backscratcher is awesome. Powerjack is also good for a similar purpose.
Mokizii ♥ (Banned) Jun 30, 2014 @ 2:38pm 
Originally posted by ϟ ѕιℓєηтηιηנα ϟ:
People don't like it when the weapon they completely or almost completely rely on is nerfed.
It deserved that nerf.
{GPW} ѕιℓєηтηιηנα Jun 30, 2014 @ 2:40pm 
Originally posted by Inquisitor:
I have a feeling this will start a flame war, but I would have to agree, it was a simple weapon change. I'm surprised people don't use any other weapon. The Backscratcher is awesome. Powerjack is also good for a similar purpose.
It's only going to become a flame war for the pyros who nearly get ALL of their kills from their axtinguisher.
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Adammatic Jun 30, 2014 @ 2:43pm 
If you rely on the axtinguisher to be good as pyro, you're not good
Mokizii ♥ (Banned) Jun 30, 2014 @ 2:44pm 
Originally posted by Adammatic:
If you rely on the axtinguisher to be good as pyro, you're not good
{GPW} ѕιℓєηтηιηנα Jun 30, 2014 @ 2:45pm 
Originally posted by Adammatic:
If you rely on the axtinguisher to be good as pyro, you're not good
You are very wise my friend. That is the hard truth.
Sir Zorba Jun 30, 2014 @ 2:47pm 
Originally posted by ϟ ѕιℓєηтηιηנα ϟ:
Originally posted by Inquisitor:
I have a feeling this will start a flame war, but I would have to agree, it was a simple weapon change. I'm surprised people don't use any other weapon. The Backscratcher is awesome. Powerjack is also good for a similar purpose.
It's only going to become a flame war for the pyros who nearly get ALL of their kills from their axtinguisher.

I got most of my kills from the reserve shooter actually. The axe was reserved for soldiers and heavies who still outright killed me more often than not. Axe nerf was still ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
Mokizii ♥ (Banned) Jun 30, 2014 @ 2:47pm 
Originally posted by Sir Zorba R.I.P. Axtinguisher:
Originally posted by ϟ ѕιℓєηтηιηנα ϟ:
It's only going to become a flame war for the pyros who nearly get ALL of their kills from their axtinguisher.

I got most of my kills from the reserve shooter actually. The axe was reserved for soldiers and heavies who still outright killed me more often than not. Axe nerf was still ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

Yet deserved.
Sir Zorba Jun 30, 2014 @ 2:51pm 
Originally posted by Dr Potaji *xL*:
Originally posted by Sir Zorba R.I.P. Axtinguisher:

I got most of my kills from the reserve shooter actually. The axe was reserved for soldiers and heavies who still outright killed me more often than not. Axe nerf was still ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

Yet deserved.

I have yet to hear one good reason why the axe nerf was deserved on these forums that doesn't just boil down to "it let the pyro instakill" or "it gave him free crits", neither of which is overpowered when compared to the kind of damage most other classes can do WITHOUT crits at longer ranges than the flamethrower can reach.
Adammatic Jun 30, 2014 @ 2:58pm 
Originally posted by Sir Zorba R.I.P. Axtinguisher:
Originally posted by Dr Potaji *xL*:

Yet deserved.

I have yet to hear one good reason why the axe nerf was deserved on these forums that doesn't just boil down to "it let the pyro instakill" or "it gave him free crits", neither of which is overpowered when compared to the kind of damage most other classes can do WITHOUT crits at longer ranges than the flamethrower can reach.
The Pyro is a class built around ambush. I had my fair share of farming with the weapon by just running up to someone, lighting them up, and finishing them before they could react. The new changes force the play style Pyro was intended to have and helps to focus more attention on mastering the use of the primary and secondary combos from the front. It was a needed nerf. If a weapon earns the status of being the "best" out of the others, then it is too powerful and must be lowered so the other weapons become useable.
Sir Zorba Jun 30, 2014 @ 3:05pm 
Originally posted by Adammatic:
Originally posted by Sir Zorba R.I.P. Axtinguisher:

I have yet to hear one good reason why the axe nerf was deserved on these forums that doesn't just boil down to "it let the pyro instakill" or "it gave him free crits", neither of which is overpowered when compared to the kind of damage most other classes can do WITHOUT crits at longer ranges than the flamethrower can reach.
The Pyro is a class built around ambush. I had my fair share of farming with the weapon by just running up to someone, lighting them up, and finishing them before they could react. The new changes force the play style Pyro was intended to have and helps to focus more attention on mastering the use of the primary and secondary combos from the front. It was a needed nerf. If a weapon earns the status of being the "best" out of the others, then it is too powerful and must be lowered so the other weapons become useable.

Or more likely the others are underpowered and/or useless, leaving only one good option. The only viable melees pyro has now are powerjack, homewrecker, and backscratcher. Only 2 are combat-viable, and the other is support. Most other classes have more utility and/or combat-ready melees than pyro does. The class that was supposedly designed as the king of close quarters combat has less good melee weapons than demoknight, a joke subclass. That should say something.

Ambushing can be from any direction, as long as you surprised the enemy. If you were just running up to people and axtinguishing them, they were terrible players and deserved to die, and would've done so even without the axe. Any competent player will turn around the instant he's lit on fire, and will more than likely blow you away with their primary that has higher DPS and range than the axe ever did.

There is literally no reason to use the axe now, the backburner's better, the backscratcher is a straight upgrade to it now, and you may as well just go spy so you have the tools you need to make getting behind people an easy task.
Bananaᴴᴰ ๖ۣۜKush Jun 30, 2014 @ 3:06pm 
Originally posted by Adammatic:
Originally posted by Sir Zorba R.I.P. Axtinguisher:

I have yet to hear one good reason why the axe nerf was deserved on these forums that doesn't just boil down to "it let the pyro instakill" or "it gave him free crits", neither of which is overpowered when compared to the kind of damage most other classes can do WITHOUT crits at longer ranges than the flamethrower can reach.
The Pyro is a class built around ambush. I had my fair share of farming with the weapon by just running up to someone, lighting them up, and finishing them before they could react. The new changes force the play style Pyro was intended to have and helps to focus more attention on mastering the use of the primary and secondary combos from the front. It was a needed nerf. If a weapon earns the status of being the "best" out of the others, then it is too powerful and must be lowered so the other weapons become useable.

Why nerf the most powerful? Why not give power a wider variety of melee weapons, and ones that can compete with Axtinguisher?

While we're at it why not give pyro a wider variety all together, then maybe we wouldn't see so many Puff n' Sting combos?
crashbfan (Banned) Jun 30, 2014 @ 3:06pm 
YEAH! LETS STAND UP TO THOSE PYROS THAT GOT KILLS WITH THE AXE!!! W+M1 MASTER RACE
http://steamcommunity.com/id/crashbfan/inventory/#440_2_2485379507
Radiant Malevolence (Banned) Jun 30, 2014 @ 3:08pm 
I've always preferred the Powerjack over the Axtinguisher. But this nerf is still very unnecessary, in my opinion. If you let a Pyro get in melee range, you deserve to die.
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