Ze Doctor Jun 28, 2014 @ 4:41pm
Portal Connections
Do you think Doug Rattmann has anything to do with Mann Co.? Or maybe just the entirety of Portal has something to do with the company?
What are your thoughts?
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I'm handsome (Banned) Jun 28, 2014 @ 4:42pm 
Mann Co. is in Australia, Aperture Science is in America like Black Mesa isn't it?
Tenacious Taco Jun 28, 2014 @ 4:42pm 
n-no
Moss (Banned) Jun 28, 2014 @ 4:43pm 
There aren't really any links between the HL universe and the TF2 universe. The only known connection of TF2 with any other game universe is the publicity blurb for the Bill's Hat stating that it fell off of a table during an interdimensional travel test.
Ze Doctor Jun 28, 2014 @ 4:52pm 
Well actually, TF2 takes place before the Black Mesa or Aperture disasters even happen, and yes it IS in America check the lore! But I wasn't wondering this just because of Rattmann's name but also because it would make sense that in a world where Australians are hyper intellegent beings who can make very VERY VERY advanced pieces of technology, wouldn't it make sense if Aperture and Black Mesa managed to get their hands on it and possibly reverse-engineer the Australian's Tech?
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shulk Jun 28, 2014 @ 5:11pm 
theres the ap sap,which is wheatly
Ze Doctor Jun 28, 2014 @ 6:01pm 
Yeah, that I consider unexplainable... unless wheatley is an OLD model of Core?
spower21 Jul 13, 2014 @ 10:48pm 
Originally posted by Lonely Turret:
Yeah, that I consider unexplainable... unless wheatley is an OLD model of Core?

The Ap-Sap is an alternate to the Sapper for the Spy. The Ap-Sap is a flattened down version of the Wheatley Core that is still fully funtional in talking and eye movements... At the end of Portal 2 Wheatley is sucked into space and left there. It could be said that Wheatley floated down to earth shortly after the game ends but 8 months later on December 20th, 2011 on Valve's official YouTube channel they released a video of Wheatley acceptance video for the VGA best character award. Now assuming that our timeline moves just as quickly as the Portal universe that means that Wheatley was left in space for 8 months and was sill floating around as the video left it. fast forward 2 years to March 11, 2013 when the Ap-Sap was added to Tf2. Now knowing that Wheatley is perfectley capable of living in space for an extended amount of time we can assume that after 2 years it is possible that he floated back down to Earth and became flattened upon re-entry of the earth's atmoshpere. Now 2 years have passed which would be enough time for the war with the combine to fizzle out and a new company take over the barren land that it left behind. Mann Co. Saxton Hale one day finds a piece of space junk in the middle of no where that he find interesting. He brings in back to Mann. Co and sells it at the shop. Thus you have the connection between Tf2 and Portal/Portal 2
Moss (Banned) Jul 13, 2014 @ 10:52pm 
Originally posted by spower21:
Originally posted by Lonely Turret:
Yeah, that I consider unexplainable... unless wheatley is an OLD model of Core?

The Ap-Sap is an alternate to the Sapper for the Spy. The Ap-Sap is a flattened down version of the Wheatley Core that is still fully funtional in talking and eye movements... At the end of Portal 2 Wheatley is sucked into space and left there. It could be said that Wheatley floated down to earth shortly after the game ends but 8 months later on December 20th, 2011 on Valve's official YouTube channel they released a video of Wheatley acceptance video for the VGA best character award. Now assuming that our timeline moves just as quickly as the Portal universe that means that Wheatley was left in space for 8 months and was sill floating around as the video left it. fast forward 2 years to March 11, 2013 when the Ap-Sap was added to Tf2. Now knowing that Wheatley is perfectley capable of living in space for an extended amount of time we can assume that after 2 years it is possible that he floated back down to Earth and became flattened upon re-entry of the earth's atmoshpere. Now 2 years have passed which would be enough time for the war with the combine to fizzle out and a new company take over the barren land that it left behind. Mann Co. Saxton Hale one day finds a piece of space junk in the middle of no where that he find interesting. He brings in back to Mann. Co and sells it at the shop. Thus you have the connection between Tf2 and Portal/Portal 2 [/quote]
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shulk Jul 14, 2014 @ 1:30pm 
Originally posted by spower21:
Originally posted by Lonely Turret:
Yeah, that I consider unexplainable... unless wheatley is an OLD model of Core?

The Ap-Sap is an alternate to the Sapper for the Spy. The Ap-Sap is a flattened down version of the Wheatley Core that is still fully funtional in talking and eye movements... At the end of Portal 2 Wheatley is sucked into space and left there. It could be said that Wheatley floated down to earth shortly after the game ends but 8 months later on December 20th, 2011 on Valve's official YouTube channel they released a video of Wheatley acceptance video for the VGA best character award. Now assuming that our timeline moves just as quickly as the Portal universe that means that Wheatley was left in space for 8 months and was sill floating around as the video left it. fast forward 2 years to March 11, 2013 when the Ap-Sap was added to Tf2. Now knowing that Wheatley is perfectley capable of living in space for an extended amount of time we can assume that after 2 years it is possible that he floated back down to Earth and became flattened upon re-entry of the earth's atmoshpere. Now 2 years have passed which would be enough time for the war with the combine to fizzle out and a new company take over the barren land that it left behind. Mann Co. Saxton Hale one day finds a piece of space junk in the middle of no where that he find interesting. He brings in back to Mann. Co and sells it at the shop. Thus you have the connection between Tf2 and Portal/Portal 2 [/quote]tf2 is in the 70s. so no.but the ap sap could be an early prototype of wheatly.also in the game poker nightnight at the inventory (i think thats the name)u can play poker with heavy and other characters, including glados.
Supr Bred Box Jul 14, 2014 @ 1:31pm 
Originally posted by Shrek In Space:
Originally posted by spower21:

The Ap-Sap is an alternate to the Sapper for the Spy. The Ap-Sap is a flattened down version of the Wheatley Core that is still fully funtional in talking and eye movements... At the end of Portal 2 Wheatley is sucked into space and left there. It could be said that Wheatley floated down to earth shortly after the game ends but 8 months later on December 20th, 2011 on Valve's official YouTube channel they released a video of Wheatley acceptance video for the VGA best character award. Now assuming that our timeline moves just as quickly as the Portal universe that means that Wheatley was left in space for 8 months and was sill floating around as the video left it. fast forward 2 years to March 11, 2013 when the Ap-Sap was added to Tf2. Now knowing that Wheatley is perfectley capable of living in space for an extended amount of time we can assume that after 2 years it is possible that he floated back down to Earth and became flattened upon re-entry of the earth's atmoshpere. Now 2 years have passed which would be enough time for the war with the combine to fizzle out and a new company take over the barren land that it left behind. Mann Co. Saxton Hale one day finds a piece of space junk in the middle of no where that he find interesting. He brings in back to Mann. Co and sells it at the shop. Thus you have the connection between Tf2 and Portal/Portal 2 [/quote]tf2 is in the 70s. so no.but the ap sap could be an early prototype of wheatly.also in the game poker nightnight at the inventory (i think thats the name)u can play poker with heavy and other characters, including glados. [/quote]
BushElito Jul 14, 2014 @ 1:33pm 
Originally posted by spower21:
Originally posted by Lonely Turret:
Yeah, that I consider unexplainable... unless wheatley is an OLD model of Core?

The Ap-Sap is an alternate to the Sapper for the Spy. The Ap-Sap is a flattened down version of the Wheatley Core that is still fully funtional in talking and eye movements... At the end of Portal 2 Wheatley is sucked into space and left there. It could be said that Wheatley floated down to earth shortly after the game ends but 8 months later on December 20th, 2011 on Valve's official YouTube channel they released a video of Wheatley acceptance video for the VGA best character award. Now assuming that our timeline moves just as quickly as the Portal universe that means that Wheatley was left in space for 8 months and was sill floating around as the video left it. fast forward 2 years to March 11, 2013 when the Ap-Sap was added to Tf2. Now knowing that Wheatley is perfectley capable of living in space for an extended amount of time we can assume that after 2 years it is possible that he floated back down to Earth and became flattened upon re-entry of the earth's atmoshpere. Now 2 years have passed which would be enough time for the war with the combine to fizzle out and a new company take over the barren land that it left behind. Mann Co. Saxton Hale one day finds a piece of space junk in the middle of no where that he find interesting. He brings in back to Mann. Co and sells it at the shop. Thus you have the connection between Tf2 and Portal/Portal 2
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Smeelio Jul 14, 2014 @ 1:59pm 
Also, in one of the Left 4 Dead comics, the. Heavy appears as an action figure, Ellis says killing zombies is just like a game called TF2, and the publicity blurb for the Pan read by a minor L4D character Whitaker says that TF2 is an "infernal game."
However, you can access the Aperture facility through an Easter egg in L4D2, which means that in the Portal and Half-Life world (Which must now also include the L4D world) TF2 is just a game, but may be based on real events as TF2 is the 60s-70s but the others are modern, and Wheatley? Well, isn't Thinking with Time Machines official now?
Either that, or In the Left 4 Half Portal universe, TF2 is just a game, but is considered another dimension and the Bill's Hat thing.
Ze Doctor Jul 20, 2014 @ 7:33pm 
Sorry guys, but the Wheatley explanation would work, if TF2 didn't take place in the 1970's...

Originally posted by Smeelio:
Also, in one of the Left 4 Dead comics, the. Heavy appears as an action figure, Ellis says killing zombies is just like a game called TF2, and the publicity blurb for the Pan read by a minor L4D character Whitaker says that TF2 is an "infernal game."
However, you can access the Aperture facility through an Easter egg in L4D2, which means that in the Portal and Half-Life world (Which must now also include the L4D world) TF2 is just a game, but may be based on real events as TF2 is the 60s-70s but the others are modern, and Wheatley? Well, isn't Thinking with Time Machines official now?
Either that, or In the Left 4 Half Portal universe, TF2 is just a game, but is considered another dimension and the Bill's Hat thing.

Actually, that's interesting considering that in the TF2 catch-up comic, Saxton straight out calls TF2 a video game biography. It could be possible that TF2, Portal, Half-Life, and L4D all exist in the same universe.
Space Guacamole Dorito Jul 20, 2014 @ 7:55pm 
Originally posted by spower21:
Originally posted by Lonely Turret:
Yeah, that I consider unexplainable... unless wheatley is an OLD model of Core?

The Ap-Sap is an alternate to the Sapper for the Spy. The Ap-Sap is a flattened down version of the Wheatley Core that is still fully funtional in talking and eye movements... At the end of Portal 2 Wheatley is sucked into space and left there. It could be said that Wheatley floated down to earth shortly after the game ends but 8 months later on December 20th, 2011 on Valve's official YouTube channel they released a video of Wheatley acceptance video for the VGA best character award. Now assuming that our timeline moves just as quickly as the Portal universe that means that Wheatley was left in space for 8 months and was sill floating around as the video left it. fast forward 2 years to March 11, 2013 when the Ap-Sap was added to Tf2. Now knowing that Wheatley is perfectley capable of living in space for an extended amount of time we can assume that after 2 years it is possible that he floated back down to Earth and became flattened upon re-entry of the earth's atmoshpere. Now 2 years have passed which would be enough time for the war with the combine to fizzle out and a new company take over the barren land that it left behind. Mann Co. Saxton Hale one day finds a piece of space junk in the middle of no where that he find interesting. He brings in back to Mann. Co and sells it at the shop. Thus you have the connection between Tf2 and Portal/Portal 2

Not really though. Here's the Item's description, sort of speak:

"Mann Co. got a great deal from a nice lady in an abandoned science facility on a warehouse full of slightly used, possibly mildly defective sappers. Unlike our other sappers, the Ap-Sap is sentient, and will provide hours of lively, one-sided conversation while you're trying to work."

Which brings up a whole lot of questions, if this is canon. Like the Lady's identity, Aperture's existence and their role/contribution in the TF2Verse(probably explained by the Perpetual Testing Initiative, considering it's disconnected from the Half-Life/Portal-Verse).
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Smeelio Jul 21, 2014 @ 9:25am 
Originally posted by An Eloquent and Poignant Lizard:
Originally posted by spower21:

The Ap-Sap is an alternate to the Sapper for the Spy. The Ap-Sap is a flattened down version of the Wheatley Core that is still fully funtional in talking and eye movements... At the end of Portal 2 Wheatley is sucked into space and left there. It could be said that Wheatley floated down to earth shortly after the game ends but 8 months later on December 20th, 2011 on Valve's official YouTube channel they released a video of Wheatley acceptance video for the VGA best character award. Now assuming that our timeline moves just as quickly as the Portal universe that means that Wheatley was left in space for 8 months and was sill floating around as the video left it. fast forward 2 years to March 11, 2013 when the Ap-Sap was added to Tf2. Now knowing that Wheatley is perfectley capable of living in space for an extended amount of time we can assume that after 2 years it is possible that he floated back down to Earth and became flattened upon re-entry of the earth's atmoshpere. Now 2 years have passed which would be enough time for the war with the combine to fizzle out and a new company take over the barren land that it left behind. Mann Co. Saxton Hale one day finds a piece of space junk in the middle of no where that he find interesting. He brings in back to Mann. Co and sells it at the shop. Thus you have the connection between Tf2 and Portal/Portal 2

Not really though. Here's the Item's description, sort of speak:

"Mann Co. got a great deal from a nice lady in an abandoned science facility on a warehouse full of slightly used, possibly mildly defective sappers. Unlike our other sappers, the Ap-Sap is sentient, and will provide hours of lively, one-sided conversation while you're trying to work."

Which brings up a whole lot of questions, if this is canon. Like the Lady's identity, Aperture's existence and their role/contribution in the TF2Verse(probably explained by the Perpetual Testing Initiative, considering it's disconnected from the Half-Life/Portal-Verse).
I think the nice lady might be GLaDOS, but I'm not sure. It just makes sense to me.
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