=(DS)=Dutchsnake5™ Jun 20 @ 1:43am
Demo nerf why it is good and bad.
Welp it's that time of the month when people complain about nerfs and buffs.

Pros-
Less spam from stickies= if you die of sticky spam, it's your own darn fault.
Makes the Grenade Launcher a useful option for a weapon.
Makes the demo more strategic with traps

Cons-
Less damage if stickies are not detnated after 2 secs
Demos who are used to powerful stickies now must get used to Grenade Launchers

Now in my perspective, people (not all of them) are really butthurt about this. Look, an OP weapon got nerfed. I'm not trying to insult people, but these people/users are making a HUGE deal about it, and even go as far as to quit TF2 all together. I think this nerf was needed so badly. I mean on every pub I went on before, I would always see one or more sticky spammers. In all, stop being so stubborn to not learn about the new change to the stickybomb launcher. I know that several people will come on this discussion and tell me off blindly. Well I have something to say: Use. The. F***ing. Grenade. Launcher.

I'm done here.

#DemoIsStillAliveAndNot#DemoIsDead

~Dutchsnake5
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Jakub Jun 20 @ 1:45am 
Demo on public servers is alive, demo in competitive format is dead.
NieOrginalny™ Jun 20 @ 1:46am 
I actually see people ignoring stickies on the floor, negleting them.
Although demos don't seem to bother detonating them either.
Also, about grenade launcher:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcYpcpqi8l4
=(DS)=Dutchsnake5™ Jun 20 @ 1:46am 
Welp, as I said, use a Grenade launcher, it is still there you know.
=(DS)=Dutchsnake5™ Jun 20 @ 1:47am 
Thank you! Someone finally knows about the grenade launcher!
lolschrauber Jun 20 @ 1:49am 
Originally posted by =(DS)= Dutchsnake5™:
Less spam from stickies= if you die of [...] it's your own darn fault.
It's always your fault unless you are quick fix medic and someone surfs you into death.
Originally posted by =(DS)= Dutchsnake5™:
Makes the demo more strategic with traps
And where is this going? I've been called a noob and even "lowlife scum" more often for setting traps than for spamming stickies. People often said "It's cheap to sit there and wait and instantly kill someone. So the f*cking haters don't even make sense.
Originally posted by =(DS)= Dutchsnake5™:
Look, an OP weapon
It wasn't quite OP, just easier to use than primary because of the basic mechanics of the weapon and love for twice the clip size. 4 shots in clip would've been enough of a nerf.
Originally posted by =(DS)= Dutchsnake5™:
I mean on every pub I went on before, I would always see one or more sticky spammers.
I've seen the opposite on majority of pubs: NO demoman. Which is why teams usually got stuck in front of sentries.
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=(DS)=Dutchsnake5™ Jun 20 @ 1:52am 
You may recall as I said above, people will attack me blindly. Thanks for proveing my point.
Qwazzy Jun 20 @ 1:52am 
The players will eventually stop crying about this good change and move on. The only question is how long it'll take.
lolschrauber Jun 20 @ 1:53am 
Originally posted by Agent Gibus 101:
I actually see people ignoring stickies on the floor, negleting them.
Although demos don't seem to bother detonating them either.
Also, about grenade launcher:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcYpcpqi8l4


Sorry, but this video is so inaccurate (even though it's quite funny :D).

In a small corridor like that it's nearly impossible not to hit if someone comes straight at you.
Pyro doesn't airblast and scout doesn't even try to use his speed to dodge (as much as that's possible with such limited room)
The players that weren't nerfed will continue to rejoice while their classes recieve buffs and never get touched.
=(DS)=Dutchsnake5™ Jun 20 @ 1:54am 
@Qwazzy, Amen brother.
(The reason I have not been able to quote people is because I'm on a tablet)
lolschrauber Jun 20 @ 1:55am 
Originally posted by =(DS)= Dutchsnake5™:
You may recall as I said above, people will attack me blindly. Thanks for proveing my point.

Who did? Certainly not me.

I just answered some of your statements with, which I think, at least, are legitimate situations and facts. I don't mean to "attack" anybody, but I'm open for discussion, you know.

It's natural that you think differently about all this. Demo is #6 in your list, while on mine it's #1.
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=(DS)=Dutchsnake5™ Jun 20 @ 1:56am 
Another butthurt fellow. The engi and heavy got nerfs Jordan. Your point is invalid.
So I shoot grenades at a pyro and he will immediately blast them in my face or I shoot grenades at an engies sentry and he can short circuit me nullifying my uber or just my weapon in general. Well thank god I can take out sentries easily with an eyelander without getting knocked back oh wait.......Wow you really thought this through OP.
=(DS)=Dutchsnake5™ Jun 20 @ 1:58am 
@lolschrauber Sorry, I thought you were trying to nitpick me. I guess it's just because we've both been in different servers.
Originally posted by =(DS)= Dutchsnake5™:
Another butthurt fellow. The engi and heavy got nerfs Jordan. Your point is invalid.
As well as any points you make on the demoman. I just love all these players that don't even play the class commenting on this topic like they actually have any knowledge whatsoever on the game. It makes me laugh and cry at the same time.
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