|GoD'sPT|Gurum0 Jun 19 @ 10:10am
WHY VALVE PRETTY MUCH KILLED PYRO WITH THE AXTINGUISHER NERF (GIGANTIC TREAD ALERT)
IDK WHAT THE ♥♥♥♥ VALVE IS THINKING WITH THIS AXTINGUISHER NERF. ppl ♥♥♥♥♥ about axtinguisher cause it can kill all classes exept heavy, or a over healed soldier. idk what they ♥♥♥♥♥ about, they dont realise that pyro is a overhealed spy with no cloak, i dont see ppl ♥♥♥♥♥ about spy killing everyone else by stabbing them in the back, dr got nerfed the right way but its still a very powerfull tool). did u ever tried to use a YER spy without using a watch, thats pretty much how pyro is right now. just see how bad pyro is right now. degreaser low damage and afterburn, flare gun, useless vs targe demos and other pyros, detonator almost impossible to kill someone with it, i get 1/2 kills per match with it, scorch shot just make ppl burn, shotgun very range lacking.

pyro is a shortest range class, while every other class can do a nice amount of damage at medium/medium-long range pyro its useless, specially with a shotgun, only doing some damage by airblasting rockets/pipes/ect.

with the new axtinguisher update, pyro is also useless agaisnt soldiers (ppl ♥♥♥♥♥, ahh flare gun does 90 damage and a krit, buuu hoo soldier at close range does 90-100 per rocket and has a click of four and dont even need to get a direct hit, now in close quarters soldier kills u with 1 rocket before u land a 2nd melee strike to kill him), demos (since flaregun dont work on targe a lot of pyros use the shotgun (me inclusive) and if using flare gun and a stikie demo, the demo may die but spams the hell out of u before going, and targe demos make pyros compelitelly useless without a team mate), heavys now just mow u down ( 3 hits now in a non overheal heavy, and 4 to 5 hits in a over healed one, even now u cant kill a over healed heavy from the back, 195+burn+2nd melee when he turns to u even if o take 50 hp with the flame puff its 195+20afterburn max(being realistic)+2nd hit in front(about 90/100)+ 50 from puff(and thats a lot)=at max 380/390 damage in a overhealed heavy, and at melee range u die in 0.8 secs to a minugun) and he does 27 damage per "boolet" at melee distance, thats almost a krit flamethrower puff. snipers keep their distance, and fighting a sniper at a distance without flare gun its pretty hard if the sniper knows what to do.

melees: backscratcher- if a medic in the team u dont use this
powerjack- slower than a scout, melee range and 20% more damage, not worth it, i find powerjack and backscratcher extremelly situational, i only use them in control points maps cause the low ammount of health and high distance to cover.
neon anilihator: also extremelly situational, only use it in tf2 fort, if that.
homewrecker, makes ur role only a pybro, sitting only on top of a sentry waiting spies.
third degree- its a upgrade to stock.


also the reason why 99% of the pyros use the axtinguisher isnt because he is too OP, the range just takes most of the OP out of it, its because every other pyro melee(exept third degree) its a compelitelly downgrade from stock axe.

VALVE U PRETTY MUCH KILLED PYRO; BUT YOU DONT DO ♥♥♥♥ TO NERF THE ROCKET LAUNCHER/STIKIE BOMB LAUNCHER THAT SPAMS AND DO 80 TO 100 DAMAGE PER ♥♥♥♥♥ SHOT, NOT TO MENTION THE RANGE ON THOSE WEAPONS.
ALSO IF I WANNA KRIT SOMEONE IN THE BACK I USE THE GOD DAM BACKBURNER, IT KILLS FASTER AND HAS A BIGGER RANGE, WHY EVEN BOTHER TO USE MELEE WHEN PRIMARY DOES JOB BETTER.

AFTER THIS INSANE LONG POST, if u bother reading it at all, its saying say hello to the old w+m1 pyro with no airblast, cause pyro playtime will be reduced a lot in almost every account, and the few pyros u will see will be almost always the ANNOYING PHLOGSTINATORS pyro that its the class than can kill someone at close range as a fast as a axtinguisher pyro.
SO GOOD LUCK BURNING IN HELL WITH KRIT PUFFS 1 each minute, AFTER THAT COME ♥♥♥♥♥ ABOUT PHLOGISTINATOR TOO.

i apolegise for all the caps, and rage, still being a rage post, its nowhere far from truth.
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ME BIG LOL (PT) Jun 19 @ 10:10am 
yq thens razao
Craig Jun 19 @ 10:10am 
Hue
Ax is good now
Use Backburner
Marona Jun 19 @ 10:11am 
I'm sorry for you, sir cannot-approach-from-behind.
The Courier Jun 19 @ 10:12am 
I love playing pyr and barel ever used the ax because the back sctratcher and powerjack are better, more hp in ttwo different ways is better than having a BS insta kill weaopn that you ould just use the flare gun or reserve shooter for.
Pyrophobia Jun 19 @ 10:14am 
I actually like the new axstinguisher.
all euphoria must end Jun 19 @ 10:16am 
Originally posted by Marona:
I'm sorry for you, sir cannot-approach-from-behind.

how long does it take you to turn around? can i attack you with a flame thrower, change to melee and attack you with melee before you can turn around? or would you just sit there staring ahead wondering where the damage is coming from? use some sense m8
|GoD'sPT|Gurum0 Jun 19 @ 10:21am 
Originally posted by Marona:
I'm sorry for you, sir cannot-approach-from-behind.
y just try to krit with a axtinguisher in most atk/def maps, and only a bit ez in payloads.
XiaoXiaoMan Jun 19 @ 10:22am 
cry some moar
|GoD'sPT|Gurum0 Jun 19 @ 10:23am 
Originally posted by anarchist cat owner:
Originally posted by Marona:
I'm sorry for you, sir cannot-approach-from-behind.

how long does it take you to turn around? can i attack you with a flame thrower, change to melee and attack you with melee before you can turn around? or would you just sit there staring ahead wondering where the damage is coming from? use some sense m8

exactly, now pyros are ham for the heavys sandwich, after a puff its not hard to know there is a pyro behind u with all the burning effects in the borders of your screen.
ginjaninja Jun 19 @ 10:23am 
Well it is good for me cuz I only play soldier
Lady Satsuki Jun 19 @ 10:23am 
Originally posted by |GoD'sPT|Gurum0:
Originally posted by Marona:
I'm sorry for you, sir cannot-approach-from-behind.
y just try to krit with a axtinguisher in most atk/def maps, and only a bit ez in payloads.
Pro tip: The nerf is there to make Pyros play more stealthily.
AKA: USE THE BACKBURNER.
Dagordae Jun 19 @ 10:24am 
I've tried it out any you can still destroy most everything in an ambush without the backcrits.
|GoD'sPT|Gurum0 Jun 19 @ 10:29am 
Originally posted by Hype Train Cometh:
Originally posted by |GoD'sPT|Gurum0:
y just try to krit with a axtinguisher in most atk/def maps, and only a bit ez in payloads.
Pro tip: The nerf is there to make Pyros play more stealthily.
AKA: USE THE BACKBURNER.
look why not make a nerf like this to the axtinguisher: -100% damage, on hit on burning targets does 4X the value of the afterburn, consuming the afterburn effect. this way at least balance the degreaser axtinguisher switch, as 45 damage (all flame weapons exept degreaser) afterburn would do 180 damage, and the 30 from degreaser would do 120 damage. its a way of saying want quick switch, u cant have a insta kill button in melee slot to the stronger classes.
Last edited by |GoD'sPT|Gurum0; Jun 19 @ 10:29am
A Man of Wealth and Taste Jun 19 @ 10:29am 
All right calm down kid
coffemonster Jun 19 @ 4:10pm 
god damn your stupid playing pyro isnt about getting kills its about protecting your team and spy checking power jack was always better then the axetuingisher the axe only works against baddies that cant aim which is the only thing you play
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