The demoman is now the worst close range class in the game.

[sick duck]

Every other class except the medic were better at close range combat. Now with the damage nerf on stickies, even the syringe gun is better in close combat than the pipes and/or stickies.

Isn't there a way to nerf the stickies at mid range without making demoman less of a joke than he's always been in close quarters?

[Ranko]

grenade launcher, instant 100 damage, hit twice, ded class

[Juno Brier]

Demoknight is a thing.

[sick duck]

hitscan > projectiles

[Comet]

Worst in close range,

also poor in mid range with 20-40 damaging stickies.


Valve wants you to be a pipe jesus.

[sick duck]

Originally posted by Inky Marona:

Demoknight is a thing.

get good.

[Littlefoot]

Demoman was never close range combat class anyway, unless you count demoknighting of course.

[Chuck E. Cheese Fight Club]

Oh im sorry, have you forgotten about DEMOKNIGHTS?

[Whales]

The stickybomb launcher was for making traps, not for spamming. valve did gud.

[Comet]

So the stock demoman will be perished and the demoknight?

Wow discarding the stock, good job valve.

[Siats]

It's a useful class, for defence, not really offence, but he has impact gernades, which explode upon impact with an enemy, so, yeah, "who cares about killz?! make babbyz moar!!!"

[JarateKing (very rusty)]

Originally posted by Kombat Wombat:

The stickybomb launcher was for making traps, not for spamming. valve did gud.

They themselves have said they didn't want it to be only for traps and be perfectly valid offensively.

And then there's the issue of trap-exclusive is really dumb and not worth the class slot.

[Comet]

Originally posted by Kombat Wombat:

The stickybomb launcher was for making traps, not for spamming. valve did gud.

the scottish resistance is for traps, not the stock sticky.

[he who remembers]

"just hit every pipe perfectly every time" - the current scrub argument for justifying the nerf

[Whales]

Originally posted by appmonkey:

Originally posted by The Phillipino Menace:

Oh im sorry, have you forgotten about DEMOKNIGHTS?

Demoknight is close range with a decent protection from damage and can kill anybody who does not see him coming with ease
Scout: run around in circles and shoot
Solly: stay at range and push them away with rockets.
Pyro: airblast
Heavy: stand and shoot
Engi: be near your sentry
Medic: Stay near another player preferably a heavy
Sniper: Shoot at long range
Spy: clock or backstab

fixed

[Fish]

The demoknights stickies have a damage ramp-up now. It takes them 2 seconds to do full damage. In my opinion this is good considering the stickies can do massive damage in just a few seconds. This change just makes the demo more balanced.