Sandal the Prosaic Jul 14, 2014 @ 2:43am
To anyone with an intellect superior to that of the decomposing right shoe of an extremely right wing conservative (Regarding MCT)
I have arrived at the discussions board of Team Fortress 2 to try to demolish MCT (Also known as "Pink Taco's unusual trade server")'s reputation of being a reasonble server with reasonable rules and a reasonbly responsible and competent staff team.
Earlier today I was depressingly banned from this server for entirely imaginary and unjust reasons.
Here is the link to my ban appeal: http://manncotrading.com/index.php/topic,5424.msg19428.html#new
And in case they ever end up hiding it, here is a screenshot of it:
http://i.imgur.com/AJjeXu5.png

As you can see, I was perma-banned for allegedly being racist. What I did was quote another user who was being racist, in order to make a certain point to the admins. When the admins did not appriciate the point that I was trying to make, they banned me for "Being racist".
By definition, quoting someone who says a racial slur is not racist. It was as simple as that, but the staff team and server owner could not handle being incorrect, so they made up a reason to ban me anyway. He states that it was still against the rules, which is not true, because the rule is simply "No racism". As stated previously, I was not being racist. I even provided them with the webster's dictionary defintion AND a nice little analogy for the simple minded. He then says "If you would have come here and explained the situation and handled it properly the outcome could be different.", which is to imply that I had not explained or handled the situation properly. If simply doing everything theban appeal format asks of me isn't handling the situation properly, I'm not sure what is. He then accuses me of spamming the admins in multiple ways. I never once spammed any admins in any ways, and I garuntee that no proof will ever be provided.

On a side note, it might appear that I am a bit harsh on the person who's grammar is terrible, and then he says "English is not my first language nor his second". I would like to state a disclaimer, I have a malaysian friend who isn't even an adult and is JUST NOW learning english, and he speaks FAR better english and is FAR easier to understand.

This has brought a sad fact to my attention.
This fact is that the MCT admins are extremely petty, banning for invalid reasons, denying ban appeals for invalid reasons, and not even responding to certain ban appeals.
For a while you could hear me singing MCT's praises from miles away, but since this event, I have realized that this server is not all that I once believed it to be.
I will provide some proof of their pettiness, though really the only thing you need to do in order to see this is visit their forums.

http://manncotrading.com/index.php/topic,5420.0.html

The above link is a link to a user that had the same exact problem as I did. He was accused of being racist when quoting another user who was using a racial slur, yet he still got banned even though he was not racist in the slightest.

http://imgur.com/ZaW0bUq,ci4y5Bg,TYAqZH5,o6SDGsT#0

Here is a link to four seperate images. In the first, you will see that the user must have seen that there was an admin viewing the page, and asks if he is currently viewing the page, just to make sure. A moderator replies asking him not to bumb his appeal, which afterwards the appeal is never bumped, but you may notice that it also is never denied or accepted.

In the second image the user apolagizes for his racism and says that he is a changed man, and that he wishes to recieve a second chance. You will see that no response is ever recieved, not even a denial. They simply ignored this appeal.

In the third image you will see that the user has an edit to make, but there is no way to edit his appeal, so he simply adds it as another comment, merely a couple hours after making the appeal. When the appeal is not replied to within ten days, he starts to question if anyone has read it or plans on replying, so he asks for help. An admin then asks him not to bump his appeal, and it is never denied or accepted.

In the final image you will see that the user accidentally messes up the format of his appeal, then requests help from someone, and when he recieves it reformats his appeal, but then sadly it is never replied to.

http://i.imgur.com/f4bOcIz.png

In the image above, a similar event takes place, where the user was unable to edit his appeal, so he simply makes an edit as a reply. He is then asked not to "bump his appeal" and is never replied to again

http://i.imgur.com/niA0Clh.png

In the image above the user has simply made another appeal because he claims his old appeal was locked and/or hidden. A moderator then replies to it saying that he already has an appeal up, and asking him not to post another appeal. When searching for this "other appeal", none can be found and it seems as if it was hidden/locked after all.

http://i.imgur.com/0uztvF0.png

In the image above, a user was allegedly banned for quoting another person saying a racial slur, but not completing the entire word, and replacing some of the letters with "*" (Asterisk). He says he was merely trying to get an opinion across, and was not intending to hurt anyone or be racist in any way. The appeal was denied, with an admin stating that he was being racist. Similar to my ban, he was not actually being racist BY DEFINITION. They seem to have a problem with the definition of the word Racist, and feel that they need to make up their own definition.

http://i.imgur.com/wUBZbz9.png

In the image above, a user was marked as a scammer for allegedly "Knowingly trading with a marked scammer". He says that he never acknowledged that the user he traded with was a scammer prior to the trade, and apoligizes, and even provides proof of a PayPal chargeback. An admin denies the appeal since he has also been banned on other unusual trade servers for seemingly the same reason. I feel sorry for the user, he seems to not be able to catcha break for his mistake that he made.

That is all the proof I have provided that they are a bit corrupt, or at least just complete ♥♥♥♥♥ic and asinine ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥s, but if you requrie more proof, just visit their forums and you can find even more without any trouble.

If anyone has any suggestions for any unusual trade servers that are as good, or prefferably better, than MCT, please say them below. I do not consider TF2 Trader to be a good server, as their admins are not trustworthy and they are even more childish than the MCT staff, so if that was going to be your suggestion, don't bother.

I have no proof currently, though I doubt it would be hard to find some, but it has come to my attention that there are some cases where people have been accused of scamming on MCT and have been marked on SteamRep, without any proof from admins that any scamming ever went on.

I apolagize for any spelling or grammatical errors, it's 2:30 AM where I am, it's been a long day, and there is no spellcheck here.

Thank you for your time.
Last edited by Sandal the Prosaic; Jul 14, 2014 @ 3:54am
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gagik_gagique Jul 14, 2014 @ 2:54am 
I wanted to tl;dr but then decided to read all of this
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Sandal the Prosaic Jul 14, 2014 @ 2:56am 
Originally posted by gagik_black:
I wanted to tl;dr but then decided to read all of this
Appreciate it. Share it with your friends if you wanna help out the cause.
Flippy (Banned) Jul 14, 2014 @ 2:57am 
Never heard of that server, but those admins sound like they're not doing their job right.
gagik_gagique Jul 14, 2014 @ 2:58am 
Originally posted by Sinnbound:
Originally posted by gagik_black:
I wanted to tl;dr but then decided to read all of this
Appreciate it. Share it with your friends if you wanna help out the cause.
not that any of my friends play on unusual trade servers, but bumping this once in a while could work
Sandal the Prosaic Jul 14, 2014 @ 2:58am 
Originally posted by Flippy:
Never heard of that server, but those admins sound like they're not doing their job right.
It's one of the most popular unusual trade servers in the world as far as I know, or at least in america.
Sandal the Prosaic Jul 14, 2014 @ 2:59am 
Originally posted by gagik_black:
Originally posted by Sinnbound:
Appreciate it. Share it with your friends if you wanna help out the cause.
not that any of my friends play on unusual trade servers, but bumping this once in a while could work
Yeah, thanks.
hop 整齐 Jul 14, 2014 @ 3:06am 
Admins these days are 10 year olds who cream their pants because of all the power they think they have.
Sandal the Prosaic Jul 14, 2014 @ 3:10am 
Originally posted by Flipflop:
Admins these days are 10 year olds who cream their pants because of all the power they think they have.
Yeah, but the sad thing is that these people are adults and they take care of a really big server with a really nice community. As far as I know there is no server with a community and a rule set as good as that server, but they decided to hire very foolish admins.
Bane Jul 14, 2014 @ 3:10am 
I have had problems with this server, they give you no chance and are out of order. I can't believe they are still alive. I am also banned, they have banned me from the forums too and the leader "pink taco" has blocked me so I cannot appeal. The admins have porn pictures and are very rude aswell. This isn't helped by the fact steamrep forces you to appeal there or be ♥♥♥♥ed.
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Sandal the Prosaic Jul 14, 2014 @ 3:12am 
Originally posted by Hydrogen:
I have had problems with this server, they give you no chance and are out of order. I can't believe they are still alive.
Yeah. Lately the number of players on at times has gone down by a significant amount and I couldn't figure out why, but I think I have a decent idea of why this is so at this point.
Bane Jul 14, 2014 @ 3:12am 
Originally posted by Sinnbound:
Originally posted by Hydrogen:
I have had problems with this server, they give you no chance and are out of order. I can't believe they are still alive.
Yeah. Lately the number of players on at times has gone down by a significant amount and I couldn't figure out why, but I think I have a decent idea of why this is so at this point.

I hope the servers die.
Sandal the Prosaic Jul 14, 2014 @ 3:13am 
Originally posted by Hydrogen:
Originally posted by Sinnbound:
Yeah. Lately the number of players on at times has gone down by a significant amount and I couldn't figure out why, but I think I have a decent idea of why this is so at this point.

I hope the servers die.
Fortunatley it is only one server, and the mission I am on is to do just that, kill the server off.
Bane Jul 14, 2014 @ 3:14am 
I also have legit evidence of what they accused me of "scamming" or attemted scam. I provided EVIDENCE that I hadn't even traded someone the time I was on that server, I trade one person that day and it was like a big earner for an enforcer or something. Was completely ignored.
Bane Jul 14, 2014 @ 3:15am 
Good sir I must add you.
Sandal the Prosaic Jul 14, 2014 @ 3:15am 
Originally posted by Hydrogen:
I also have legit evidence of what they accused me of "scamming" or attemted scam. I provided EVIDENCE that I hadn't even traded someone the time I was on that server, I trade one person that day and it was like a big earner for an enforcer or something. Was completely ignored.
Yeah, sounds like them
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