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Exactly. Battle engineer with gunslinger (Yes. I approve of the item. Don't sue.) + shotgun of any kind = actually really effective.
dfq
Unless they happen to know what they're doing, in which case you're basically being buttraped by some of the most damaging classes. Also, I don't mind Engineers that refuse to make a sentry as long as they build teleporters and dispensers.
And then become fodder for the demo and solly.