Team Fortress 2
Which is Worse, Backburner or Phlogistonator?
Seriously, the majority of the community hates these two weapons. Backburner is never used for ambushing, like it's supposed to be, the Phlogistonator encourages W+M1'ing, and they both have major flaws that keep Pyro from being a good team player.
Last edited by Tsar Butterfly; Jul 2, 2014 @ 1:51pm
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Hamm fam (Banned) Jul 2, 2014 @ 1:50pm 
backburner... as much as it rewards you for doing what pyro is meant for , phlog does it better
Radiant Malevolence (Banned) Jul 2, 2014 @ 1:51pm 
Atleast the Backburner CAN be used effectively, just no one ever does it. But the Phlogistinator is just terrible, Pyro is useless without airblast.
Hamm fam (Banned) Jul 2, 2014 @ 1:52pm 
Originally posted by Radiant Malevolence:
Atleast the Backburner CAN be used effectively, just no one ever does it. But the Phlogistinator is just terrible, Pyro is useless without airblast.
nah the crits and health make up the loss of airblast
Radiant Malevolence (Banned) Jul 2, 2014 @ 1:54pm 
Originally posted by Skrub-lord Gentlehamm:
Originally posted by Radiant Malevolence:
Atleast the Backburner CAN be used effectively, just no one ever does it. But the Phlogistinator is just terrible, Pyro is useless without airblast.
nah the crits and health make up the loss of airblast

No, it really doesn't. The Phlog is only good against noobs. Any competent player will destroy a Phlog Pyro. Without airblast, you're pretty much a free kill for Soldiers, Demomen and Scouts.
Last edited by Radiant Malevolence; Jul 2, 2014 @ 1:55pm
Phlogistinator. Really takes the "team" out of teamfortress.
Hamm fam (Banned) Jul 2, 2014 @ 1:56pm 
Originally posted by Radiant Malevolence:
Originally posted by Skrub-lord Gentlehamm:
nah the crits and health make up the loss of airblast

No, it really doesn't. The Phlog is only good against noobs. Any competent player will destroy a Phlog Pyro. Without airblast, you're pretty much a free kill for Soldiers, Demomen and Scouts.
i main phlog pyro , and i have >600 kills with it , i find it easy as hell to use. just because you can't force your enemy into a corner for 5 minutes while he despratly tries to harm you doesn't mean you're useless
Yui (Banned) Jul 2, 2014 @ 1:57pm 
backburner can still extinguish team mates, it wins.
Frux (Banned) Jul 2, 2014 @ 1:57pm 
Backburner.

Mainly because it makes you cringe when you think Robin Walker might have sat down and said "How about a flamethrower that crits if they flame the back of an enemy?".
Phlog just seems to be the flamethrower that requires the least amount of thinking and it's more of a run and hold down mouse 1 weapon, so therefore i think the phlog is worse, especially with the rage taunt bar that is quick to fill. At least the backburner takes some thinking to get behind enemies and take them by surprise.
Radiant Malevolence (Banned) Jul 2, 2014 @ 2:01pm 
Originally posted by Skrub-lord Gentlehamm:
Originally posted by Radiant Malevolence:

No, it really doesn't. The Phlog is only good against noobs. Any competent player will destroy a Phlog Pyro. Without airblast, you're pretty much a free kill for Soldiers, Demomen and Scouts.
i main phlog pyro , and i have >600 kills with it , i find it easy as hell to use. just because you can't force your enemy into a corner for 5 minutes while he despratly tries to harm you doesn't mean you're useless

You're probably playing in pubs against noobs. I'm glad you're doing well with it, though. If you enjoy using a weapon, use that weapon as much as you want. Who cares what other people say, just have fun, that's all that matters.

But this doesn't change the fact that the Phlog is just bad. The Backburner is much better for flanking. And the Degreaser/Stock is much better for head-on combat. The Phlog isn't really good at anything, other then making people mad.
{stardust} Jul 2, 2014 @ 2:03pm 
BB requires the fat Pyro to be sneaky, which makes it take more skill than Autism Awareness Pyro.
Hamm fam (Banned) Jul 2, 2014 @ 2:03pm 
thinking about it , you can never win with the pyro
use the backburner/phlog : omg w+m1 nub , go die in a hole
use the degreaser : omg fukn puff sting ♥♥♥ , go die in a hole
use the stock : omg 1 hr skrub git gud , go die in an inverted hill
Frux (Banned) Jul 2, 2014 @ 2:04pm 
Originally posted by wedl:
BB requires the fat Pyro to be sneaky
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xcSmlSok32g
{stardust} Jul 2, 2014 @ 2:05pm 
Originally posted by Dr Potaji *xL*:
Originally posted by wedl:
BB requires the fat Pyro to be sneaky
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xcSmlSok32g

gr918171 memey m1717 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Littlefoot Jul 2, 2014 @ 2:05pm 
Phlogistinator, the Backburner at least CAN still airblast.

There is ONE SINGLE PLACE where i think the Phlog is useful, and that's in Mann Vs Machine where it's a good weapon against tanks.

Still, i use this little beauty nowadays:
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198072737409/inventory/#440_2_2564800343
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