Team Fortress 2
Raigekii 天 Aug 19, 2017 @ 5:06pm
A former aspiring competitive TF2 player's insight.
I used to compete in leagues in this game, granted they were online leagues but the competitive atmosphere was actually really really good, there were loads of teams, a good balance between them, and the maps and classes that got used were in perfect balance with eachother.

ENTER THE UPDATES

Now while still playing competitively, Valve suddenly started making new items, scoot items, medic items, etc etc.

Every single item that came out, helped kill off the competitive scene bit by bit. Scouts weren't really liked anymore because they could suddenly stun heavies with the greatest of ease.
Medic's could get Übercharged within mere moments if they used the melee weapon correctly.
♥♥♥♥♥♥even spy's were 100% viable at all times when their items came out.

These were simpler times in terms of how big the game has gotten as of right now.
But these "simpler" times had so much more to offer to people individually. You got the sense of accomplishment when you rose the ranks in the leagues, you wanted to get better with your favorite class to make it into a certain Clan/Team you wanted to join, you had respect for other players because there was a subtle hiearchy there.

ENTER FREE TO PLAY

This is where all of the competitiveness died off. As if the 100 items that came out by then wasn't enough, or the lame hats weren't the MAIN objective in the game atm. They added F2P, basically saying "Too bad if you payed for the game when it was still competitively good, now we will forcefeed all the community reject items and maps we can into your well-groomed skill-based mouthes.

IT IS SAD DAY

I remember watching frag vids on youtube that inspired me to try classes I wouldn't otherwise play, I remember Daedalus teaching us all how to play the scoot, and yet, nothing of all that seems to matter anymore. Valve got greedy once again, and they dropped the ball hard on this one...

WHY DO I ONLY WRITE NOW?
Because everytime I open up Steam and see "Team Fortress 2" uninstalled, it feels like Valve is slapping me in the face, calling me stupid for buying this game, and grinning immensely at how they destroyed the competitive fanbase.

So please Valve,
Neve release another Team Fortress, the way things are going with CS:GO you can barely make competitive platforms for gamers anymore. And it really shows.

Sincerely,
A saddened player
Last edited by Raigekii 天; Aug 19, 2017 @ 8:14pm
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Full_Metal_Meme Aug 19, 2017 @ 5:09pm 
TL:DR "F2P ruined the game" "Old TF2 was bettur!!11!"
Ubered Enjiner Aug 19, 2017 @ 5:09pm 
We're sorry, i guess?
Galactic Yoshi Aug 19, 2017 @ 5:10pm 
Originally posted by Delicious Buttery Popcorn:
TL:DR "F2P ruined the game" "Old TF2 was bettur!!11!"
Raigekii 天 Aug 19, 2017 @ 5:10pm 
Originally posted by Delicious Buttery Popcorn:
TL:DR "F2P ruined the game" "Old TF2 was bettur!!11!"

You miss the point, it's not only about the F2P, sadly that's the only part you glanced your eyes over and made your opinion about, trying to display it as fact.
Full_Metal_Meme Aug 19, 2017 @ 5:11pm 
Originally posted by Raigekii 天:
Originally posted by Delicious Buttery Popcorn:
TL:DR "F2P ruined the game" "Old TF2 was bettur!!11!"

You miss the point, it's not only about the F2P, sadly that's the only part you glanced your eyes over and made your opinion about, trying to display it as fact.
Look, I understand the game has gone through some drastic changes over the years, but if there's anything I learned, is that I gotta look at the parts that made the game greater.
Pakaku Aug 19, 2017 @ 5:11pm 
Originally posted by Raigekii 天:
ENTER THE UPDATES

Now while still playing competitively, Valve suddenly started making new items, scoot items, medic items, etc etc.

Every single item that came out, helped kill off the competitive scene bit by bit. Scouts weren't really liked anymore because they could suddenly stun heavies with the greatest of ease.
Medic's could get Übercharged within mere moments if they used the melee weapon correctly.
Sounds like you quit competitive during the very early years of TF2.

Leagues these days will run weapon blacklists, so broken items like the Sandman won't see any play because of how unfair stun is.
Foster Kia Aug 19, 2017 @ 5:12pm 
tldr

Originally posted by Delicious Buttery Popcorn:
TL:DR "F2P ruined the game" "Old TF2 was bettur!!11!"
lmao thanks for the summary
Raigekii 天 Aug 19, 2017 @ 5:13pm 
Originally posted by Pakaku:
Originally posted by Raigekii 天:
ENTER THE UPDATES

Now while still playing competitively, Valve suddenly started making new items, scoot items, medic items, etc etc.

Every single item that came out, helped kill off the competitive scene bit by bit. Scouts weren't really liked anymore because they could suddenly stun heavies with the greatest of ease.
Medic's could get Übercharged within mere moments if they used the melee weapon correctly.
Sounds like you quit competitive during the very early years of TF2.

Leagues these days will run weapon blacklists, so broken items like the Sandman won't see any play because of how unfair stun is.

That may be, but how many players are active on that? And how many actually good grinded-out put-in-the-work players are competing in those leagues?
There's a reason I literally NEVER hear about TF2 leagues anymore.
Foster Kia Aug 19, 2017 @ 5:13pm 
also I played 1 match of comp and never played it again, does this make me a former competitive tf2 player
Raigekii 天 Aug 19, 2017 @ 5:14pm 
Originally posted by Look, I understand the game has gone through some drastic changes over the years, but if there's anything I learned, is that I gotta look at the parts that made the game greater. [/quote:

I get what you're saying, but it in no way has raised the bar. Literally nothing, what do people want? Hats on their guns on their hats?

Dominic Aug 19, 2017 @ 5:15pm 
Originally posted by Delicious Buttery Popcorn:
TL:DR "F2P ruined the game" "Old TF2 was bettur!!11!"
Well he is not wrong. But you did miss a big part to and that is where he brings up all the weapons they added. The more weapons they added the more this game became a unbalanced mess. there is a reason this game is so unbalanced to be honest it is all the extra weapons and well Valve itself.
Raigekii 天 Aug 19, 2017 @ 5:15pm 
Originally posted by Mr. Foster berdthday boi:
also I played 1 match of comp and never played it again, does this make me a former competitive tf2 player
No it just makes you a troll :3
Foster Kia Aug 19, 2017 @ 5:16pm 
Originally posted by Raigekii 天:
Originally posted by Mr. Foster berdthday boi:
also I played 1 match of comp and never played it again, does this make me a former competitive tf2 player
Yes it makes you a former competitive tf2 player :3
Okay well guys we need to remove pyro

You can trust me, I'm a former competitive tf2 player
Last edited by Foster Kia; Aug 19, 2017 @ 5:16pm
Raigekii 天 Aug 19, 2017 @ 5:18pm 
^ I can't argue with bipolar people sorry.
Levanator Aug 19, 2017 @ 5:20pm 
Originally posted by Raigekii 天:
Originally posted by Mr. Foster berdthday boi:
also I played 1 match of comp and never played it again, does this make me a former competitive tf2 player
No it just makes you a troll :3
>Using :3
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