Team Fortress 2
shenko May 28, 2017 @ 3:28am
ELO in Casual?
DISCLAIMER: Yes I understand it is just Casual, no one is meant to take it seriously like any tryhard. But if Valve is gonna keep Casual the way it is, then we need more balanced matches so that everybody can actually have fun.

It's no surprise that Casual is still not perfect, it needs major improvements to make it on par or better than the old quickplay system. All the suggestions aside, I never see anybody say we need ELO in Casual. Think about it, it's not fun if the other team is pushing your team's as*hole inside out for 6 minutes on Viaduct, to the point where your team becomes nothing but a puddle of blood on the spawn room floor. Not to mention, in every 12v12 Casual server, the top 2 players on each team are veterans, while the rest range from competent to people that just installed the game. And also quing up with friends more likely means that the other team is gonna get stomped if all six of them are comp players.
ELO in Casual will result in players actually getting matched with players with similar skill. Veterans will be paired against veterans, and those who just installed the game will be paired with those of similar skill. And I'll be honest, I think it will also give incentive to play Casual as you want to win to level up that badge, and every loss makes you lose XP, without abandon penalties (At least for 3 games maybe), those who leave mid game do not lose or gain XP, also adding an option to only join fresh games and making Vote kicks actually do something will fix most of the problems we have.

I understand this suggestion sounds like making TF2 more competitive and killing the silly aspect of TF2, I never want that to die but I also enjoy actually playing the game. But unless Valve adds back quickplay, or adds an actuall functional training mode, how are new players gonna learn how to play and enjoy the game if they keep getting killed by the same Soldier-Medic pair if they don't even know what airblast is? Here's a question for you: How does it feel to be on the receiving end of a stomp? I rest my case.
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Nano May 28, 2017 @ 3:29am 
There's a news.that they'll add ELO in the next update.
also, Tl;dr
Last edited by Nano; May 28, 2017 @ 3:30am
magatsu May 28, 2017 @ 3:30am 
They already said that they'll add ELO system in Pyro update.
shenko May 28, 2017 @ 3:30am 
Originally posted by Nano:
There's new that they'll add ELO next update.
also, Tl;dr
But it's only for competitive mode. It's not confirmed it will also be in Casual.
Nano May 28, 2017 @ 3:33am 
Originally posted by Shenkowicz:
Originally posted by Nano:
There's new that they'll add ELO next update.
also, Tl;dr
But it's only for competitive mode. It's not confirmed it will also be in Casual.
I think casual doesn't get ELO system. Since march 24 players with similar rank. Is cancerous.
Fluff May 28, 2017 @ 4:11am 
Casual really doesnt need elo, as trying to implement matchmaking to that extent would be a nightmare. Besides, the casual rank system already awards exp based on in-match actions.
Train May 28, 2017 @ 4:12am 
blogpost.tf
daba Oct 15, 2017 @ 12:45pm 
;-;
Train Oct 15, 2017 @ 12:45pm 
Originally posted by |duds :3:
;-;
Fuck off with your necro.
76561198369240810 Oct 15, 2017 @ 12:47pm 
soon?
some camera... Nov 14, 2019 @ 12:56pm 
two f*cking years and this sh*t is still a problem. even worse, casual doesn't let you lose xp and badge levels, still gives you xp when you lose, and thanks to that i'm lvl59, sucking d*ck being stomped on and getting 1 good match out of 20. crap system
green Nov 14, 2019 @ 1:05pm 
ELO in casual? I never thought of Jeff Lynne as a gamer. :spycon:
it's almost like badge levels literally don't matter 0_0
brokenphilip Nov 14, 2019 @ 1:54pm 
Originally posted by idk guns:
two f*cking years and this sh*t is still a problem. even worse, casual doesn't let you lose xp and badge levels, still gives you xp when you lose, and thanks to that i'm lvl59, sucking d*ck being stomped on and getting 1 good match out of 20. crap system
first of all, don't bump dated threads if you have nothing meaningful to add

secondly, at least check your facts before doing so - there was a hidden MMR system in casual for years now

also, if you're having horrible games regularly (and not occasionally), you need to get good. i rarely ever get stomped and even when i do i just disconnect and requeue because levels are meaningless
shenko Nov 14, 2019 @ 5:33pm 
Originally posted by brokenphilip:
Originally posted by idk guns:
two f*cking years and this sh*t is still a problem. even worse, casual doesn't let you lose xp and badge levels, still gives you xp when you lose, and thanks to that i'm lvl59, sucking d*ck being stomped on and getting 1 good match out of 20. crap system
first of all, don't bump dated threads if you have nothing meaningful to add

secondly, at least check your facts before doing so - there was a hidden MMR system in casual for years now

also, if you're having horrible games regularly (and not occasionally), you need to get good. i rarely ever get stomped and even when i do i just disconnect and requeue because levels are meaningless
Man, has it really been two years? Darn.
Transmuntana Nov 24, 2019 @ 12:01pm 
Originally posted by idk guns:
two f*cking years and this sh*t is still a problem. even worse, casual doesn't let you lose xp and badge levels, still gives you xp when you lose, and thanks to that i'm lvl59, sucking d*ck being stomped on and getting 1 good match out of 20. crap system

I 100% agree with the guy, those last two months I've gotten literally ZERO balanced matches. I always, without fail, get sent into a terrible team chock-full of F2Ps, friendlies and similar garbage that is getting completely stomped on. And as a Medic main, having a team you'd gladly annihilate with your own hands if given the chance, is a BIG detriment to playing.


And before anyone says anything, I know the likely answer, and YES, I'd love to have this thing on my inventory for those cases:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dMGcuvi5Xc
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Date Posted: May 28, 2017 @ 3:28am
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